'02 VW Jetta won't get up to temp....

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I have an '02 VW Jetta with the 2.0L 4 cylinder, and I've had the car for just over a year. Throughout this time, the temp gauge has pretty much remained bottomed out. Very rarely, it will sneak up to 190ish degrees for a little while (less than a couple of minutes), and go back down again. It's done this in the hottest parts of summer, and in the winter as well. I've checked the hoses, and the upper hose will be warm/hot to the touch, whereas the lower hose (going to the thermostat housing) will remain relatively cool.

I thought it may be a stuck t-stat, so I changed the thermostat out today and flushed the cooling system with Prestone SuperFlush. During the first flush, with the Prestone and water in the radiator, the temp did get up to 190* and stayed there while I was driving, so I let the heater run for ten minutes. I then flushed the system with pure water, and it never got up to temp. I drained the water out, and filled with the correct 50/50 mix, and I'm still not getting the temp gauge to budge.

I'm afraid I have air trapped in the system, as my upper hose remains hot to the touch (roughly 145*) and the lower hose is cool. I've checked the temp of the block at various places with an infrared thermometer, and it averages 170ish degrees. How can I purge the system of air, if this is my problem? These cars don't have a radiator cap, just a cooling reservoir. I filled the radiator up via the upper hose, and took my time doing so to allow air to "burp" out (took about 30 minutes). I've watched the fluid level in the cooling reservoir, and its getting to 145*, but the level isn't changing. Any ideas?
 
No need to fill the radiator up with the radiator hose. The system is filled by the pressured overflow bottle. Just let it run with the cap off of the reservoir. Add as necessary. I don't believe on that app that there is a special bleed procedure.
 
My 91 BMW gets an air bubble by the temp sensor and it doesnt give a true reading.

You may have a similar issue.
 
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My 91 BMW gets an air bubble by the temp sensor and it doesnt give a true reading.

You may have a similar issue.


So, how do you get rid of the air bubble??
 
Good thinking replacing the thermostat
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But I have heard people say even "brand new" t-stats can be bad.....I hear if you boil a pot of water on the stove, you can test them that way....i believe i read it on this forum actually...

Not sure of your exact vehicle, but I know my Aries had a "coolant temp sensor" as well as a "Temperature Sender"...

How's the car running otherwise? The week or two I drove mine with the temperature gauge in the "cold" I noticed the vehicle used a [censored] of gasoline lol...
 
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How's the car running otherwise? The week or two I drove mine with the temperature gauge in the "cold" I noticed the vehicle used a [censored] of gasoline lol...


The car runs great, and hasn't given me a bit of trouble. Now, the gas mileage isn't great, and I am only averaging around 23 MPG on a tank of gas. It would be interesting to see if the temp is affecting my mileage, as I would expect this car to be a little more fuel efficient.
 
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As for you statement about getting air out of your system...

Unlike other cars i've worked on. VWs put the coolant reservoir as the highest point int he coolant system. If you leave the cap off and run the car it should expell the air on its own. You can however help it by massaging a few hoses. I usually massage the two heater hoses.

I've personally never had a bad VW tstat also my car runs way cooler than yours at 160 or right below.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyman
the water pump may be disintegrating. usually the fins will start to corrode off or the impeller will separate from the body. you will still have some flow but may not be enough.


Theres that too. But he isnt over heating. Both coolant pumps ive had go bad i had over heating.
 
try replacing that sensor then.

If you had air in your system first issue you'd have is no heat as the heater core is the second highest point of your system. Second issue would be over heating.
 
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