0/20 spec really?

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Why void your warranty by running the wrong grade? It's your car, but if I was spending that kinda money on a new car I'd run what the manual says and only what the manual says until the warranty expired.

5W-20 and 0W-20 are the same at operating temperatures, and I've seen a ton of 5W-20 spec engines go well over 300k likely running off Jiffy Lube oil and filters the whole time.
 
I know a member of our Honda S2000 club who insisted on running 0w-20 oil in his engine. The manufacturer spec is 10w30 and 5w40, most people thought it wasn't a risk worth taking. The car was autocrosed regularly too. Turned out the 20 weight oil worked just fine after a few OCI's and some UOA testing, and the car was run pretty hard. There was no noticeable difference between any of the oil runs despite the viscosity change. I thought that was a pretty good test.
 
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Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Are you as lawyer now? Stop giving your stupid advice when warranties are involved...

Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
What are you basing this on? What wear? How do you know that you actually prevent wear by using thinner oil at start up?

And please don't mention "logic" when you have none...



Yo fellow Veteran . . . . . . . . . . take a chill pill.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
OP, if you're dead set on a 30...





Saw this as well. But it goes on to say: "Please consult your vehicle manufacturer's manual for information specific to your vehicle." So this doesn't quite say Honda would agree a 0w30 is appropriate.
 
Originally Posted By: Danh
Saw this as well. But it goes on to say: "Please consult your vehicle manufacturer's manual for information specific to your vehicle." So this doesn't quite say Honda would agree a 0w30 is appropriate.


Somehow I don't think he's worried about what Honda thinks, considering the premise of this thread as well as the mixing...
 
Was just at the Honda dealer getting my spoiler reinstalled..at the parts desk they have a Honda oil chart and every model gets the 0/20 for a couple years now...not going that route, my minimum 2.5/30
 
You could run the 0W-20 to satisfy the warranty requirements and then the next day after the warranty expires, your engine is shot and the new engine is on your dime.
 
How do you get 2.5w20 which you can't buy? How would you ensure a proper blend? Somebody mentioned the word troll earlier in this thread now I am starting to agree with that.
 
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
You could run the 0W-20 to satisfy the warranty requirements and then the next day after the warranty expires, your engine is shot and the new engine is on your dime.

But engines never have failed on thicker grades?
 
Originally Posted By: Danh
Originally Posted By: wemay
OP, if you're dead set on a 30...





Saw this as well. But it goes on to say: "Please consult your vehicle manufacturer's manual for information specific to your vehicle." So this doesn't quite say Honda would agree a 0w30 is appropriate.


That's correct but it appears Mobil thinks it's OK to use a 0W30, and they're covering themselves too.
 
Originally Posted By: Tech819
How do you get 2.5w20 which you can't buy? How would you ensure a proper blend? Somebody mentioned the word troll earlier in this thread now I am starting to agree with that.



2qt. 0/20 + 2qt. 5w40 = 2.5/30 or 1qt. 0/20 + 1qt. 5/20 + 2qts. 5w40 = 3.75/30... I get to use my inventory and everyone is happy cause it's full synthetic.
 
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Originally Posted By: Tech819
How do you get 2.5w20 which you can't buy? How would you ensure a proper blend? Somebody mentioned the word troll earlier in this thread now I am starting to agree with that.



2qt. 0/20 + 2qt. 5w40 = 2.5/30 or 1qt. 0/20 + 1qt. 5/20 + 2qts. 5w40 = 3.75/30... I get to use my inventory and everyone is happy cause it's full synthetic.


Not really scientific or 100% accurate but then again you were always going to do what you wanted.
 
Tech you came in kinda late here, we have another '16 1.5T going with the spec oil (I'm sure there will be many here) anyway we will have comps to evaluate.
 
Originally Posted By: dblshock
Tech you came in kinda late here, we have another '16 1.5T going with the spec oil (I'm sure there will be many here) anyway we will have comps to evaluate.


Evaluate how? Please don't say UOA.
 
Originally Posted By: dblshock
Tech you came in kinda late here, we have another '16 1.5T going with the spec oil (I'm sure there will be many here) anyway we will have comps to evaluate.


How are you going to deal with the warranty issues? Hope you don't have a problem? If you do, hope they don't ask for documentation?
 
This is from the Pennzoil Q and A take it for what you want.

6. I’m interested in making a custom blend for my vehicles. Preferentially starting with Rotella T6 5W-40, as it’s in the family, but wanting something a bit closer to 5w30. Rotella as it’s in the family, and a strong oil, but if needed, Platinum Euro 5W-40 could be considered as a starting point. I would like to blend it down to a 5w30 using Platinum 5W-20, so that I will end up with a 5w30 with a little more anti-wear additive than the typical 5w30. Are there any problems doing this, and will the results be as I expect them to be?


The physical results may be very much as you expect i.e. viscosity is likely to be predictable following well known physical laws however the chemical effects are highly unpredictable. Wear performance is not dictated solely by the amount of wear protecting additives in an oil, the efficacy (effectiveness) of the additives must also be considered. Efficacy can be negatively impacted by changing the balance of a formulation package. The approach you suggest could conceivably result in poorer performance, I would recommend choosing a single tier of product, and Pennzoil Platinum has been designed to offer complete protection including unsurpassed wear performance.
 
Originally Posted By: Tech819
This is from the Pennzoil Q and A take it for what you want.

6. I’m interested in making a custom blend for my vehicles. Preferentially starting with Rotella T6 5W-40, as it’s in the family, but wanting something a bit closer to 5w30. Rotella as it’s in the family, and a strong oil, but if needed, Platinum Euro 5W-40 could be considered as a starting point. I would like to blend it down to a 5w30 using Platinum 5W-20, so that I will end up with a 5w30 with a little more anti-wear additive than the typical 5w30. Are there any problems doing this, and will the results be as I expect them to be?


The physical results may be very much as you expect i.e. viscosity is likely to be predictable following well known physical laws however the chemical effects are highly unpredictable. Wear performance is not dictated solely by the amount of wear protecting additives in an oil, the efficacy (effectiveness) of the additives must also be considered. Efficacy can be negatively impacted by changing the balance of a formulation package. The approach you suggest could conceivably result in poorer performance, I would recommend choosing a single tier of product, and Pennzoil Platinum has been designed to offer complete protection including unsurpassed wear performance.


That certainly makes a strong statement for not mixing oil formulas...I will consider it, thanks.
 
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