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I'm using them (Alfa romeo), they seem as grippy as Hankook kinergy 4s2, Nokian AS, Pirelli Cinturato AS, Conti Sport 5 on wet and dry, -3°C -> +38°C, not tested on snow. They are also way smoother than the V shaped All Season , especially at Autobahn speeds (here in Europe, All Seasons are the...

@OP I recently had the same experience (only once). Take a look at Vredestein tyres , they are only made in Holland and Hungary. It's an old Dutch brand, they seem to target luxury cars (they have even the rare sizes in their portfolio) and classic cars. Performance , refinement and quality...

Let's not forget that Italy has a major seismic activity. In northern provinces of the empire (nowadays France and Romania), the climate was (up until recently) less nice, with lots of freezing / defreezing cycles. And roman architecture still stands, defying all this. The quality of foundation...

Ravenol ?

As I red on the issue, the too low viscosity or the low oil level is really troublesome, never heard of high viscosity issues. In Europe, for Giulietta 1.4 Multiair: MK1 2010 Euro5 asks for 5w40 MK2 sept 2013: same engine code, but the manual says 0w30 . 'cause Euro6 (hmmmm) MK3 2015 or 2016...

That's the safest approach. I go a bit longer, almost double, using thicker -40s that take longer do dilute to a lower grade. In the first years under warranty, with some "thin side" 5w40 at dealer's ( kin. viscosity 100°C around 13,1 cSt, IIRC) , the engine became a bit "rough" and noisier...

Since it's an electro-hydraulic unit, I suppose it's all about keeping the oil above a minimum viscosity and level, clean and, of course, foam/bubble free. Nothing so fussy about, any modern oil with the right viscosity grade and Fiat spec will do. Since the oil looses its viscosity along the...

And the prize for the thickest '40 goes to... Castrol edge 0w40 RN17 RSA (for Renault RS / Alpine sport cars ) Kinematic viscosity 100°C 16.1 cSt ...for a Pour Point at -57°C Quite impressive.

And the Petronas Selenia Sport (fullSAPS A3/B4) and Selenia Sport Power/Selenia Quadrifoglio (midSAPS C3) 5w40 Kinematic Viscosity 100°C 15,2 cSt, unknown HTHS For the top tier Alfa Romeo QV(quadrifoglio verde) and Abarths .

@OP Great ride, thumbs up! I have the same engine (1.4 turbo MultiAir 170hp) on my Alfa Romeo Giulietta. If you have acces to Petronas Selenia oils, you might consider Selenia Sport Power/Selenia Abarth/ Selenia Quadrifoglio - all 5w40s - probably the same oil with different...

@OP You might consider this one, I think it's easily available in Belgium : Total Quartz 9000 Energy 5w40 https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/1454-total-quartz-9000-energy-5w-40/ It's a stout classic Full SAPS 5w40, with enough ZDDP, high 100°C viscosity, good CCS, TBN and Noack, top specs...

@ d00df00d : thanks, good post. Finally answered the OP's question.

Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies If you look at a bunch of UOA's, you'll see oil many times thickens in normal OCI's. I hardly saw any case of. I admit I'm not a UOA fan, but I looked at quite a lot here, and especially on oil-club.ru/.de I hope you compare the Visc from the UOA with...

Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary In my OTR vehicles I averaged 90kkms OCIs (5W-40 Syn HDEO) and the viscosity at 40C remained within acceptable limits! Hi Doug, I confess that, being on a PCMO area, I was only focusing of PCMO change intervals. (max 30k km, let's say). Anyway, your OTR OCIs...

Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi the big problem when people fail to change their oil for long periods is extreme thickening, as in the funny YouTube videos with long strings of rubbery looking stuff hanging out of drain holes. Of course, you're right, in 60 000km the viscosity will finally...

Originally Posted By: FZ1 I agree. I prefer to run thicker but in oem grade oil. Yep. For the THIN fans: remember that, as the oil gets used along your OCI, viscosity goes one way: DOWN. Shearing, fuel contamination and other degradation processes will finally turn a Xw-30, let's say, into a...

I think there are few others. Lukoil Genesis Premium 5w40 being a good example (Made in Romania). kVisc100 = 13.7 in TDS, 15.14 (!!) in a russian VOA, Noack 8.4 ! voa Have you seen Motorex in Switzerland?

I'm struggling already. The Swiss-made Motorex Select SP-X 5w40 looks great (kVisc100 14.6cSt, CCS 4618, Noack 8.7) but I can't find it in France.

Originally Posted By: volodymyr A year ago I asked Liqui Moly tech support if I should switch to C3 or stay with A3 considering that my Nissan MR20DE engine allows both. Their response was: we've seen better wear protection with A3, so unless there is recommendation to use C3 it is better to...

Originally Posted By: chrisri Zveroboy I see your logic behind SAPS level being irrelevant. It's not my logic, it's my worries But I see your point. I explained in my 2nd post my reasons for preferring a FullSAPS. It's not for additives' sake only, but I still can find stout 5w40s with...