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#3181369 - 11/07/13 02:15 PM NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter
ziggy Offline


Registered: 08/08/05
Posts: 1320
Loc: stamford, CT
Hi all! Been doing ALOT of research here, and find myself making a post. Car is a 98 toyota corolla. I like using 10w 30. Belive in better lubircation over a 5w 30. Now with winter coming here in southwest ct...other night it happened again! Have supertech 10w30 dino in, do oil change every 3 months, short tripper. Temps at night got around 42-44..Turning over car, that niose, it hesitated to turn a few cycles. Never that prob with a synthetic.
However, this time reseraching here, since i change it often, the oil, looking at supertech, advance auto or napa. Napa has a sale right now, and i know its VERY close virtually identical too valv synth...for $3.49 quart. Supertech not sure, but thought i read here its pour point was like minus 48 F! i know pour point is just where oil shows little movement...but at minus 48 F good enough for me! I see advacne auto has synthetic as well, and know its not a real synthetic.
Out of the 3, which would give the lowest temp startup. januray feb come its literally going to be 14 degrees at night. 10w 30 is going to be thick n hard too turn..so want a 10w30 synthetic out of the 3 listed. read lots of good stuff here, about wear numbers on supertech as well...

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#3181392 - 11/07/13 02:37 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
stchman Offline


Registered: 09/25/13
Posts: 1495
Loc: St. Louis, MO
If the manufacturer calls for 5W-30, then use 5W-30. Just because you "believe" 10W-30 lubricates does not actually mean it does.

5W-30 has better cold flowing properties than 10W-30, and if Toyota says to use it, the engine was designed to use 5W-30. Remember at operating temperature, 5W-30 and 10W-30 are the same.

Since you are already at Walmart, Supertech makes a full synthetic 5W-30. IIRC, you can get a 5 quart jug for less than $18. I would personally use Mobil 1 at $24 for the same amount. Walmart also stocks Purolator oil filters, the correct application for your car is the L14476 according to Purolator website.
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#3181404 - 11/07/13 02:55 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
NateDN10 Offline


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If you're looking for low pour point, why in tarnation are you using 10W-30?
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#3181413 - 11/07/13 03:02 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
ziggy Offline


Registered: 08/08/05
Posts: 1320
Loc: stamford, CT
ok...the oil cap says 5w 30 yes. the book that came with car has the oil chart, above 0 degrees i think it was, 10w30 under 0 degrees F 5w 30 so i am ssuming its ok too use 10w 30 no?
I chose 10w30, becuase reading over time here, how 5w30 may or does sheer. 10w30 to me is more sheer stable, thus=keeping grade. im only doing like 1,500 miles MAX in 3 months, 980-1200 the norm. it also says to change oil every 3,000 miles or 3 months whichever comes first.
ive used 10w30 syhtetics even in the rcent past, on my old 95 neone,. mobil 1 10w 30, valvoline synth 10w30, durblend aa mix kinda 10w 30, all at 13-17 degreees out, car turned over faster than i turned the key. Its when i use dino it crnaks n cranks then ths dry start noise comes form engine, hence forth the sythetic. for when its cold.


Edited by ziggy (11/07/13 03:03 PM)

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#3181415 - 11/07/13 03:02 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
SF0059 Offline


Registered: 08/06/12
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Loc: Lynchburg, VA, USA
10w-30 is not going to do a better job of protecting at low temperatures than a 5w-30, whether you are talking syn or dino.

Get a good quality 5w-30 (syn or dino) and use it with confidence. Don't second guess manufacturers recommendations because of a gut feeling or something your grandfather told you, they recommend a given weight across temps for a reason.
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#3181417 - 11/07/13 03:05 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 3015
Loc: MTL, CANADA
Why would 10w30 be better? I would run either a 5w30 or a 0w30 in that car. If it happens with a 5w30, the issue is other than oil related.
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#3181418 - 11/07/13 03:05 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: SF0059]
ziggy Offline


Registered: 08/08/05
Posts: 1320
Loc: stamford, CT
Its been quite some time since ive used a 5w30 in dead of winter at the temps i listed. jsut seems a cheap synthetic, even if it s fake, gives a better startup..
ive discovered even with 10w 30 as a synthetic car started as fast as ASAP..
But so far, everyone replied seems to htik 5w 30 even dino. dont want the 5w 30 dino to make that crank crank crank, dry start noise.

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#3181449 - 11/07/13 03:37 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
tommygunn Offline


Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 3061
Loc: usa
I'd take the Napa synthetic since it's Synpower, and it's on sale at a great price.

However, there's nothing inherently bad about AAP or ST syns. And the Walmart stuff even meets GM's 4718M standard.
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#3181453 - 11/07/13 03:46 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
Zaedock Offline


Registered: 09/10/05
Posts: 3880
Loc: Massachusetts
Sorry man, but 10W30 did not cause your 15 year old econo car to make noises at 42-44 *F. Not sure why you would want 10W30 anyway. 5w30, syn or conventional, would be fine year round.
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#3181517 - 11/07/13 05:43 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
Oregoonian Offline


Registered: 02/06/10
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Run a 5w30 din....year round, forget about it and sleep well.

Mobil Super 5000 5w30 should work just fine (year round), and its reasonably priced at Walmart. In addition, a Purolator Classic filter(Walmart) should be a perfect combination, with a total cost for a 5 quart jug and Puro filter of abour $18 and some change.

IMO, 10w30 oils are 'old school', and will be off the shelves in a few years.
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#3181520 - 11/07/13 05:49 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
toneydoc Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 1454
Loc: War Eagle
How old is your battery? Did the hesitation have anything to do with old or discharged partially battery? I highly doubt you will notice very much cranking difference at that 42 degree temperature. Maybe get the battery checked out at a part store.
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#3181581 - 11/07/13 06:43 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
davebarnum Offline


Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 176
Loc: Dixon, CA
Either this is a post to stir things up, or the guy just doesn't read or heed advice.

Even in a moderate climate, people are using 5w30. Even 0w30. But why are you asking this on an oil board if you don't even pay attention to your oil cap?
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#3181621 - 11/07/13 07:18 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
05LGTLtd Offline


Registered: 03/04/13
Posts: 947
Loc: Va
Clean the terminals on the battery, starter, and grounds. I concur with the napa 5w-30 synthetic suggestion.
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#3181651 - 11/07/13 08:00 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
fxrider Offline


Registered: 06/09/09
Posts: 920
Loc: Wyoming
Napa oil - 5w30 for winter - 10w30 for summer on that old beater.

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#3181659 - 11/07/13 08:10 PM Re: NAPA/supertech/advance auto synth, best for winter [Re: ziggy]
Propflux01 Offline


Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 3289
Loc: Arkansastan
Originally Posted By: ziggy
.... I chose 10w30, becuase reading over time here, how 5w30 may or does sheer. 10w30 to me is more sheer stable, thus=keeping grade.


I think you have that backwards. Most 10W-30's shear to 5W's in a couple three thousand miles.

use a 5W in your climate. Any of the brand choices you listed would work great.
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