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#2541137 - 02/18/12 09:09 PM Oil known for its effective cleaning ability?
HondaRD Offline


Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 199
Loc: Michigan
Hi all,
I recently picked up a used 02'Camry with the 2AZ-FE 4cly engine. It has about 96k miles on it and runs quite well with very minimal oil seepage around the oil pan gasket. I recently put in Pennz HM but I was contemplating using an oil known for its cleaning abilities at the next OCI. I thought about using an additive like ARX or MMO but I don't want to break something that ain't broken either grin I just want to get things nice and clean using oil alone. Any recommendations? It seems many here think Redline does a good job of cleaning but I'm not sure how easy it is to find. Would M1 or any of the Rotella products do a good job of cleaning? I see varnish on the baffle underneath the oil cap but doesn't look too dark.

Thanks!


Edited by HondaRD (02/18/12 09:10 PM)

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#2541139 - 02/18/12 09:11 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
rjacket Offline


Registered: 05/15/10
Posts: 1107
Loc: CA
PYB PHM PP PU


Edited by rjacket (02/18/12 09:12 PM)

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#2541142 - 02/18/12 09:12 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
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Mobil 1
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#2541155 - 02/18/12 09:32 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
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Mobil 1.
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#2541164 - 02/18/12 09:38 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
DrDusty86 Offline


Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 1491
Loc: TX
PP

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#2541190 - 02/18/12 09:51 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
45ACP Offline


Registered: 04/03/11
Posts: 1271
Loc: Dallas Texas
RP

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#2541191 - 02/18/12 09:52 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
Capa Offline


Registered: 01/04/10
Posts: 1235
Loc: Oklahoma
IIRC, according to Sopus, PU > Mobil 1 > PP > dino.

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#2541208 - 02/18/12 10:06 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
45ACP Offline


Registered: 04/03/11
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Loc: Dallas Texas
RL cleans too!

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#2541211 - 02/18/12 10:09 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
JavierG Offline


Registered: 06/11/11
Posts: 1130
Loc: Fresno, CA
PU PP PYB Rotella M1
Or Kreen MMO with anything
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#2541212 - 02/18/12 10:10 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
JimPghPA Offline


Registered: 08/22/09
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PU
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#2541219 - 02/18/12 10:17 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
HondaRD Offline


Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 199
Loc: Michigan
hmmm, thanks for the input everyone. I didn't know Penz had a newer oil than their platinum product. It does seem like Penz is putting a lot of emphasis on "self cleaning" with all their oil, especially PU.

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#2541228 - 02/18/12 10:26 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
rjacket Offline


Registered: 05/15/10
Posts: 1107
Loc: CA
Yeah it's a clever strategy. Sell QS to gunk up an engine, then sell Pennzoil to clean it up.

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#2541321 - 02/18/12 11:57 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
Sixxer Offline


Registered: 02/27/10
Posts: 138
Loc: Georgia
I love to two letter replies everyone gives as if its a war. Funny stuff. MMO?
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#2541352 - 02/19/12 01:01 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: Sixxer]
Bruce T Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
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Loc: Oklahoma City
Originally Posted By: Sixxer
I love to two letter replies everyone gives as if its a war. Funny stuff. MMO?


Ha, I can't say I've never been tempted to make up abbreviations that don't fit any known oil -- just to mess with people.

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#2541385 - 02/19/12 02:56 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
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Registered: 11/20/08
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH
Redline followed by Royal Purple follow by Pen Ult/Plat
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#2541396 - 02/19/12 03:38 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: Sixxer]
45ACP Offline


Registered: 04/03/11
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Loc: Dallas Texas

Originally Posted By: Sixxer
I love to two letter replies everyone gives as if its a war. Funny stuff. MMO?


PYB

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#2541398 - 02/19/12 03:45 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
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Registered: 09/05/05
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M1 0w40?
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#2541412 - 02/19/12 05:49 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
Turk Offline


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Loc: MN
Yes, PU.
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#2541418 - 02/19/12 06:07 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
demarpaint Offline


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PU, PP, M1.
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#2541586 - 02/19/12 10:03 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: Capa]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Capa
IIRC, according to Sopus, PU > Mobil 1 > PP > dino.


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#2541588 - 02/19/12 10:04 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
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Redline or Mobil 1 would be my choice.
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#2541611 - 02/19/12 10:29 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: OVERKILL]
mr_diy Offline


Registered: 07/31/11
Posts: 248
Loc: Michigan
This engine may have some sludge if it was poorly maintained. You may want to be careful with a strong cleaning oil, watch the oil and be ready to change it on a shorter OCI. Alternative could be to blend a syn and work your way up to full strength one qt at a time.
I would suggest PU, should find it locally.
I blend RL in my changes, and purchased a case mail order some years back.


Edited by mr_diy (02/19/12 10:30 AM)
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#2541637 - 02/19/12 10:57 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
MuzzleFlash40 Offline


Registered: 06/20/11
Posts: 840
Loc: Ohio
Any good SN oil will do a good job cleaning over time. Use whatever you like. PYB, PP, PU might have a little more, but I'm not sure it will be a big difference.
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#2541641 - 02/19/12 11:00 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
tig1 Offline


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Posts: 10545
Loc: Illinois
M1 oils of various formulations have kept my engines clean for 34 years.
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#2541644 - 02/19/12 11:03 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 29521
Loc: NJ
Ultra, M1. I think Ultra is a really good oil. It's a shame they don't make a 0w20/30 and update their PDS's.

The Amsoil/Redline oils will clean very well too. Lot of calcium in both.
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#2541650 - 02/19/12 11:06 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: buster]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 23086
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: buster
It's a shame they don't make a 0w20/30 and update their PDS's.



I'd be all over PU in 0W20 and 0W30. I don't understand the delay? Wake up SOPUS!
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#2541677 - 02/19/12 11:26 AM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 02/25/05
Posts: 4311
Loc: MS
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Redline or Mobil 1 would be my choice.


+1
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#2541823 - 02/19/12 01:57 PM Re: Oil known for its effective cleaning ability? [Re: HondaRD]
dparm Offline


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Any API SN oil will do a fine job, though I think the recommendations of Pennzoil Ultra are spot-on.
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