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#2379331 - 09/16/11 07:22 PM Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ
CdnMax Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 20
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Truck has now done 10,353km on this oil. Oil still in sump. Last analysis done May 2010 this one is Sept 2011. Has gone thru two summer season towing cycles. Used mostly for towing 27ft 5th wheel.

Analysis appears fine. One question, when is soot % a problem? Engine has a FS2500 bypass system. Would like to post the actual analysis with full history of past analyses but posting that is a PITA on this forum.

Comments welcome

Aluminum2
Chromium 1
Iron 15
Copper 4
Lead 1
Tin 0
Molybdenum 3
Silver 3
Titanium 0
Potassium 2
Boron 4
Silicon 13
Sodium 4
Calcium 2885
Magnesium 10
Phosphorus 1273
Zinc 1419
Barium 0

cst Viscosity @ 40 C 110
cst viscosity @ 100 c 15.65
Visc Index - 151
Fuel % 0.0
Antifreeze % 0.0
Water % 0.0
Soot % 0.3

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#2379371 - 09/16/11 08:10 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Smokefan1977 Offline


Registered: 07/05/11
Posts: 674
Loc: Gilbert, AZ
Good report. I use redline in my truck aswell. Would never think of running anything else
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#2379489 - 09/16/11 10:15 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
panthermike Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 3218
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Very nice report my friend.
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#2379801 - 09/17/11 10:34 AM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Duramax_LMM Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 26
Loc: WA
Any make-up oil added?

Do you ever get TBN also?

Your Molybdenum at 3 and Magnesium at 10 are about used up.

Moly universal average should be 35 and Mag 343.






Edited by Duramax_LMM (09/17/11 10:42 AM)

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#2379824 - 09/17/11 10:58 AM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Duramax_LMM Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 26
Loc: WA
For example when I ran my 2007.5 Duramax out 10,000 miles over 8 months the Moly was still 12 and the Mag 716. (Mobil 1 TDT and Mobil 1 filter).

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...288#Post2354288

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#2380009 - 09/17/11 02:18 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: Duramax_LMM]
CdnMax Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 20
Loc: Alberta, Canada
The universal averages you quote are dependent on brand and ady package and really aren't that universal. Although I don't have, nor have seen a VOA for this oil I would highly doubt the values were even that high right out of the bottle.

I've quick changed Cdn Tire Diesel oil (stout, simple ady package) at 2157 km and have seen moly @ 2 and mag @ 12. TBN was 10.5 at that time.

I guess what I'm saying is that you won't see it if it wasn't there in the first place.

Make up oil was less than 1 liter and I did not get TBN tested.

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#2380041 - 09/17/11 03:07 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Smokefan1977 Offline


Registered: 07/05/11
Posts: 674
Loc: Gilbert, AZ
You UOA has nothing to do with the OP's. st it's a complete different product. Never compare UOA from 2 different oils or vehicles for that matter
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#2380042 - 09/17/11 03:09 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Duramax_LMM Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 26
Loc: WA
You might find the VOA here, I see plenty of othe Redline VOA there anyway. This site could use a search by forum feature...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=11&page=1


Did find the Mobil 1 TDT VOA there:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1939477#Post1939477


Edited by Duramax_LMM (09/17/11 03:10 PM)

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#2380068 - 09/17/11 03:42 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Duramax_LMM Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 26
Loc: WA

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#2380090 - 09/17/11 04:16 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: Duramax_LMM]
CdnMax Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 20
Loc: Alberta, Canada
If you look at the very first post (Stinky Peterson)in the VOA section you will see that a great deal of diesel oils start out with low Mg and Mn.
I just think its presumptuous to say an additive is used up if we're not sure it was there in the first place.
In an oil like Mobil TDT that may be valid but I'm not so sure it holds true for Redline's diesel oil.

Has anyone else seen a UOA for Redline 15W40 Diesel with much higher values?

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#2380092 - 09/17/11 04:19 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: Duramax_LMM]
Smokefan1977 Offline


Registered: 07/05/11
Posts: 674
Loc: Gilbert, AZ
These are not the same product The op is using. Realize that Anti Wear additive dont get used up between VOA and UOA. Without TAN and TBN you cannot determine if an oil is used up. The RL 5-40 is really meant as redlines Euro product.

Please guys for the OP sake dont start trying to compare products. Keep in mind also that the Redline he is using is Ester based. It act completely different in an engine compared to how mobil 1 will


Edited by Smokefan1977 (09/17/11 04:23 PM)
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#2380251 - 09/17/11 08:40 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: CdnMax]
Duramax_LMM Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 26
Loc: WA
Does seem like a TBN test would be a good idea on oil in use that long.

http://www.oil-analysis.org/tan_tbn_test.html


Edited by Duramax_LMM (09/17/11 08:43 PM)

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#2380274 - 09/17/11 09:19 PM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: Duramax_LMM]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 1768
Loc: Houston, Texas
silicon is getting up there. Mine usually stays around 4 or 5ppm. I'm not sure if that's just the oil but wear looks pretty good yet.
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#2380408 - 09/18/11 02:53 AM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Ben99GT Offline


Registered: 02/25/05
Posts: 4311
Loc: MS
Silicon looks to be at virgin Red Line levels.
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#2380592 - 09/18/11 10:45 AM Re: Redline Diesel Oil 15W40 - 2006 Duramax LBZ [Re: Ben99GT]
panthermike Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 3218
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Silicon looks to be at virgin Red Line levels.


+1 from what I've seen. Didn't they remove Moly from this oil because of its effect on Copper? Either way, I think this UOA is great for time, miles, and usage(mostly towing).
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