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#2249930 - 05/03/11 02:09 AM Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic
sir1900 Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
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Just picked up a Lexus RX. It calls for 0W-20. Does this oil come in conventional, or it is exclusively a synthetic oil?
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#2249933 - 05/03/11 02:31 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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From my understanding, only a synthetic can do a 0w-XX. You are going to have to go with synthetic. Pennzoil and Mobil 1 offer good options.
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#2249934 - 05/03/11 02:37 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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No, 76 makes a normal synthetic blend 0W20.

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#2249952 - 05/03/11 06:16 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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0W-20 is required for the 10,000 mile OCIs. If you study the owner's manual closely, it usually states that 5W-20 can be substituted, but then the OCI is reduced to 5,000 miles.
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#2249993 - 05/03/11 07:38 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: The Critic]
Stelth Offline


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Originally Posted By: The Critic
No, 76 makes a normal synthetic blend 0W20.


Also, Phillips 66 TropArtic synthetic blend (same manufacturer as 76 lubricants) comes in a 0w-20.
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#2250114 - 05/03/11 09:52 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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Honda has a 0W-20 Synblend
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#2250119 - 05/03/11 10:00 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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Stick weith the Toyota/Lexus 0w20. In this case the dealer oil is better than most the other 0w20's you can get off the shelf.
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#2250170 - 05/03/11 10:42 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: Hokiefyd]
sir1900 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
0W-20 is required for the 10,000 mile OCIs. If you study the owner's manual closely, it usually states that 5W-20 can be substituted, but then the OCI is reduced to 5,000 miles.


The manual states 8000km (5000 miles) OCI. It does state than 5W-20 may be used, but 0W-20 MUST be used at the next OCI. I sure wish it asked for 5W-20 exclusively as I have 20 jugs sitting on my shelf right now. It will take me forever to get rid of it all.

I've been looking around for the 0W-20 oil. The only place I can find it at is Canadian Tire, and they have it priced at $10 for a 1qt bottle.
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#2250218 - 05/03/11 11:29 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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The PP 5W-20 you have will work just fine in your Lexus. It will not know the difference.

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#2250224 - 05/03/11 11:34 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
Hokiefyd Offline


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Originally Posted By: sir1900
The manual states 8000km (5000 miles) OCI. It does state than 5W-20 may be used, but 0W-20 MUST be used at the next OCI.


You are correct, it does say that. I believe (my opinion only) that this is to "reset" you back to a 10,000 mile OCI. I can't see a reason why it would be okay to run 5W-20 for one 5,000 mile interval, but not for two 5,000 mile intervals in a row (with an oil change in the middle obviously). The manual also does give you a little bit of room for interpretation, as it does tell you that if used under certain high-load or high-speed conditions, a heavier "weight" oil may be appropriate. In other words, although the graphic shows only 0W-20 across all temperatures, the text does seem to allow you room for other grades.
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#2250371 - 05/03/11 01:55 PM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: Bryanccfshr]
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Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
Stick weith the Toyota/Lexus 0w20. In this case the dealer oil is better than most the other 0w20's you can get off the shelf.


That's an interesting statement, but can it be proven?
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#2250480 - 05/03/11 03:45 PM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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Amsoil, Mobil 1, Valvoline all make very quality 0w20 synthetics.
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#2250603 - 05/03/11 06:57 PM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: tig1]
sir1900 Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
Stick weith the Toyota/Lexus 0w20. In this case the dealer oil is better than most the other 0w20's you can get off the shelf.


That's an interesting statement, but can it be proven?


Does Toyota have it's own brand of oil, or is it just bulk oil from whatever supplier that meets the minimum requirements?

I can appreciate advocating the use of Toyota/Lexus brand oil, but an oil change can get expensive every time it is taken to the dealership.
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#2250761 - 05/03/11 09:50 PM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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I've used dino 5W-20 in my 0W-20 only '10 Camry 4 cylinder since new.

I have 45,000 miles on it now with "0" problems.

The Toyota 0W-20 does appear to be robust with loads of moly.

It's available for $5/qt. at my dealership.
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#2251135 - 05/04/11 10:38 AM Re: Is 0W-20 only available in synthetic [Re: sir1900]
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Don't quote me on this as I'm going on memory, but I believe that the Toyota 0W-20 is a full synthetic, supplied by XOM, made to Toyota specs. I may have the supplier wrong, in which case, it is another quality supplier. But it is available in Canada at approximately $5 per litre at dealerships (at least according to recent BITOG posts). So really not significantly different than another quality synthetic of 5W-xx on sale at Walmart or Canadian Tire. Call a dealership or two and find out for yourself what current pricing is.
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