Recent Topics
How do street addreses work?
by Chris142
01/31/15 06:17 PM
Headstamp List
by 2010_FX4
01/31/15 05:30 PM
Knowledge is expensive LOL...
by Skanky
01/31/15 04:32 PM
A Fairly New Base Oil
by MolaKule
01/31/15 04:18 PM
Was Fram ever really that bad?
by KGMtech
01/31/15 04:06 PM
PL14670 and PSL22500 (Pics!)
by jk_636
01/31/15 03:52 PM
Kawasaki Valve cover
by LX289
01/31/15 03:42 PM
Chips on chrome wheels
by MalfunctionProne
01/31/15 03:42 PM
one oil for all
by Chris142
01/31/15 03:40 PM
Purolator L10241 pics from my Harley
by SJohnson
01/31/15 03:29 PM
Vintage Honda ATF/PSF & Dexron II
by HKPolice
01/31/15 03:05 PM
Mopar MaxPro 15W-40 Diesel
by tr4petty
01/31/15 03:04 PM
Newest Members
mvtoro, wildmanrandall, Garry1974, robdaniel, dux
52685 Registered Users
Who's Online
103 registered (2010_FX4, 1kickbuttranger, 147_Grain, 2009Edge, 3800Series, 11 invisible), 1637 Guests and 177 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
52685 Members
66 Forums
225830 Topics
3594260 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#1466731 - 05/16/09 03:22 PM Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes
George7941 Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 1516
Loc: Toronto, Canada
On another forum I read about somebody losing a Chrysler 2.7 engine because the engine sludged up, the hydraulic timing chain tensioner did not work properly, the chain jumped and destroyed the engine.

Considering all the problems oil sludging causes, why not avoid it with shorter oil change intervals? I used to go with 3k mi OCI, I now use 4k mi OCI (on dino oil). This is with 90% city driving. The OLM on the Sierra comes on about every 5k mi, so I am changing the oil a bit more frequently than the OLM recommends.

I like to get the oil nice and hot before I change the oil and I let it drain for at least ten minutes.

I have never had any oil sludge in any of my vehicles. I have never had to use AutoRx or any engine rinses. Seems to me the extra cost of more frequent oil changes is well worth it to avoid the sludge.
_________________________
2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 locker rear, Formula Shell Synthetic 5W30, Wix 51036, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80

Staying out of the right lane a lot.

Top
#1466733 - 05/16/09 03:25 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: George7941]
river_rat Offline


Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 3402
Loc: Iowa
+1
I've never had to use an engine cleaning product to remove sludge.
Ever.

Top
#1466735 - 05/16/09 03:26 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: George7941]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 14339
Loc: Niagara Falls, ON, CA (near)
Yes & No. While you have a good methodology, some engines like the 2.7 are sludge prone due to poor PCV/breathing design that causes the engine oil to be taxed to death in earlier models before it was corrected later on.

You could safely follow the OLM with your dino oil and you would be fine as it is very reliable.

\:\!

I change my oil at 6K miles and I'm going to go even further because I use high quality syn oils and good filtration and monitor it all with a UOA to ensure I'm not over taxing the oil.
_________________________
'06 Hyundai Sante Fe - 330K KM's
Current Oil: RLI 0w30 (Ask me why)

Don't be part of the Sheeple, check frequently for wool over your eyes. wink

Top
#1466771 - 05/16/09 04:07 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: George7941]
HTSS_TR Online   content


Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 13511
Loc: Irvine, CA
 Originally Posted By: George7941
...
Considering all the problems oil sludging causes, why not avoid it with shorter oil change intervals? I used to go with 3k mi OCI, I now use 4k mi OCI (on dino oil). This is with 90% city driving. The OLM on the Sierra comes on about every 5k mi, so I am changing the oil a bit more frequently than the OLM recommends.
...


You're changing at about 20% earlier than OLM, which is not too early with dino oil, specially since most of your trips are city driving. With syn blend you can safely change oil when OLM down to zero.
_________________________
'94 LS400
'00 E430
'04 S2000
"Consumerism has accustomed us to waste. But throwing food away is like stealing it from the poor and hungry" Pop Francis

Top
#1466784 - 05/16/09 04:17 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: HTSS_TR]
George7941 Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 1516
Loc: Toronto, Canada
The OLM accounts for city driving.The OLM intervals would be longer with more hwy driving.

If I had an engine with known sludge problems, I would probably change the oil at 1/2 OLM intervals i.e. twice as frequently as the OLM wants me to. Who wants to deal with oil sludge and associated problems?
_________________________
2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 locker rear, Formula Shell Synthetic 5W30, Wix 51036, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80

Staying out of the right lane a lot.

Top
#1466881 - 05/16/09 05:58 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: George7941]
Cutehumor Offline


Registered: 12/10/02
Posts: 9074
Loc: USA
use syn and run OLM to 0%. syn gives that cushion needed if your afraid of sludge with dino.
_________________________
09 Chevy Cobalt 2.4L 72k miles
09 Pontiac Vibe 2.4L 88k miles

Top
#1466970 - 05/16/09 07:57 PM Re: Oil Sludge vs Frequent Oil Changes [Re: Cutehumor]
George7941 Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 1516
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Synthetics will give better protection against sludge formation from oil oxidation but they do nothing for sludge formation from PCV,condensation, small coolant or fuel leak issues. Frequent oil changes will help in these cases.
_________________________
2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 locker rear, Formula Shell Synthetic 5W30, Wix 51036, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80

Staying out of the right lane a lot.

Top