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#1355192 - 01/28/09 01:44 PM Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil
Art_Vandelay Offline


Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1339
Loc: USA
I just read Valvoline's 4 X better wear protection thread( vs. Mobil 1) and happened to see this display for Castrol EDGE 5W-30. Some poster's mentioned that Valvoline may be making an unsubstantiated claim against Mobil 1 but now Castrol is doing it too, citing the Sequence IVA wear test.

Check out the photo from their display:

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#1355194 - 01/28/09 01:48 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Art_Vandelay]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46860
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
I predict there will be a whole group of M1 supporters coming along really quickly.

My personal viewpoint on this stuff: it's all marketing baby!

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#1355198 - 01/28/09 01:52 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Pablo]
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Loc: Central Washington
Aaaaahahahaha
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#1355199 - 01/28/09 01:53 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Art_Vandelay]
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Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 982
Loc: midwest
I doubt that your engine will go south using Mobil oils. But a lot of consumers are becoming price / quality conscious, Exxon Mobil will see lower sales because of that. But whoever is running Exxon, they are running the company to the ground.


Edited by Billy007 (01/28/09 01:54 PM)

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#1355201 - 01/28/09 01:55 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Billy_D]
Nickdfresh Offline


Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 4002
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Castol Edge is 4X better than Synpower? Who knew!?

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#1355202 - 01/28/09 01:55 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Colt45ws]
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Loc: Kuwait
Now I feel really good about the choice I've made. :D
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#1355203 - 01/28/09 01:59 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Falcon_LS]
mcrn Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 2781
Loc: FL
somebody should tell all the race teams that are using Mobil 1 5W30 that their oil is causing so much wear. Especially since they are using them for 24 hr endurance races.

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#1355205 - 01/28/09 02:01 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: mcrn]
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 215
Loc: Private, USSR
this is both funny as [censored] and annoying as [censored]...all in one buttery flaky crust
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#1355207 - 01/28/09 02:04 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: casper]
ChiTDI Offline


Registered: 12/19/03
Posts: 2057
Loc: Chicago IL
They should cut their prices 8 times.

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#1355210 - 01/28/09 02:06 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Falcon_LS]
Nickdfresh Offline


Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 4002
Loc: Buffalo, NY
I dunno. I work in a field heavily involved the the sophistry of semantics, and much of these claims are sort of like saying that Desmond Howard is a 4X better NFL wide receiver than Jerry Rice because he ran a faster time in the 40 yard dash...

And I am no friend of EXOM, personally (as a completely disingenuous pseudo- )environmentalist - I think some of the things they've done to be downright disgusting from funding bad pseudo-science to giving huge bonuses amongst record profits and soaring gas prices. EXOM is a case study in bad public relations.

There is a theory that EXOM is in fact gonna go the way of the dinosaur, but not because Mobil1 is declining in quality. But I have a hard time buying the hype from the guys at Ashland oil and British Petroleum nor do I think they're much better or more honest. I think they're merely trying to catch Mobil1 in a catch-22 because they can, and have little to lose. And it's not the first time. I worked for a subsidiary of Valvoline (on a very low level) and was told to extol how Synpower was the first synthetic to be compatible with conventional "dino" oil. But I was like, "so what?" The price of tea in China has more bearing on what oil I choose to use in my car today...


Edited by Nickdfresh (01/28/09 02:11 PM)

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#1355217 - 01/28/09 02:13 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Nickdfresh]
mcrn Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 2781
Loc: FL
I wonder if PP offers 16x better wear? Or if we will see that being advertised?

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#1355222 - 01/28/09 02:16 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: mcrn]
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Registered: 02/10/08
Posts: 3130
Loc: Phila,PA
This getting funny!!!!

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#1355226 - 01/28/09 02:19 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Nickdfresh]
Art_Vandelay Offline


Registered: 11/30/08
Posts: 1339
Loc: USA
 Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Castol Edge is 4X better than Synpower? Who knew!?


That's what I was thinking!

On my way to Walmart, there's bound to be a, "Super Tech offers 16 X better wear protection than Mobil 1," display out by now.


Edited by Art_Vandelay (01/28/09 02:20 PM)
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#1355228 - 01/28/09 02:22 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Nickdfresh]
Nyquist Offline


Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 928
Loc: Iowa
 Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Castol Edge is 4X better than Synpower? Who knew!?

Based on the math, Castrol would have Valvoline by 2x, not 4x. If it were 4x, that sign would say "16x better. . . "
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#1355231 - 01/28/09 02:24 PM Re: Castrol EDGE 8 X better Wear Protection than Mobil [Re: Nyquist]
Nickdfresh Offline


Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 4002
Loc: Buffalo, NY
 Originally Posted By: Nyquist
 Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Castol Edge is 4X better than Synpower? Who knew!?

Based on the math, Castrol would have Valvoline by 2x, not 4x. If it were 4x, that sign would say "16x better. . . "


You have a point there, but then, that's all based on marketing claims and not on the actual wear rates conducted during testing. Isn't it?


Edited by Nickdfresh (01/28/09 02:25 PM)

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