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#1062417 - 01/11/08 01:19 PM
John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 10/25/07
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Loc: Somerset County, PA
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A VOA on J-D's semi-syn 0W-40 that I've just recently started using in my J-D X595 tractor (24 HP 3 cyl. Yanmar diesel). RON: Everything looks fine in this sample of virgin 0W/40 oil. The TBN starts out strong at 9.4, which is a common reading for a new diesel use oil like this. The additive package is also strong and should do well in your tractor. No water or insolubles were found. The iron isn't a problem and neither is the silicon. Silicon at this level may be from a little anti-foam additive. The viscosity was right in the middle of the 40W range, though that will drop a little after the oil sees use (like it does with all oils). In any case, this oil is perfectly serviceable. ALUMINUM: 0 CHROMIUM: 0 IRON: 2 COPPER: 0 LEAD: 0 TIN: 0 MOLY: 94 NICKEL: 0 MANGANESE: 0 SILVER: 0 TITANIUM: 0 POTASSIUM: 0 BORON: 123 SILICON: 4 SODIUM: 2 CALCIUM: 2659 MAGNESIUM: 289 PHOSPHOROUS: 1226 ZINC: 1416 BARIUM: 0 SUS VISC. @210F: 76.9 Cst Visc. @100C: 14.73 Flashpoint: 425 Fuel %: — Antifreeze %: — Water %: 0.0 Insolubles %: 0.0 TBN: 9.4 TAN: ISO Code: Interesting that the Blackstone VOA shows a TBN of 9.4. At the J-D page describing the product http://www.deere.com/en_US/parts/partsinfo/oils_and_lubricants/oil_0w40.html they note a TBN of 12.8. Seems like quite a difference!!
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#1062432 - 01/11/08 01:36 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Canada
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Even with the TBN discrepency, I'm still really impressed with this oil! Love that add-pack with moly and boron. This oil 'looks' a lot like M1 0W-40, the add pack seems similar in that it uses both those elements, but it also has the advantage of the high Zinc number.
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#1062531 - 01/11/08 04:42 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Somerset County, PA
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We're looking at stocking up on this for our other J-D diesel equipment as well, especially since the local J-D guy is having a January lube/filter sale right now. We'd been using Rotella "T" 5w-40, but, the numbers from this http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1040289#Post1040289 VOA seems to show the "T" getting a bit weak in the ZDDP's as it were. Maybe we're over-worrying about nothing as regards the T's numbers, but, those J-D diesels aren't cheap to fix. We'd really rather not take a chance. Hmmm. I have a stash of CI-4+ "T" 5-40, maybe I'll send some of that out for a VOA before I hide from the falling sky. 
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#1209032 - 08/05/08 05:56 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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#1231299 - 09/06/08 08:54 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
[Re: pickled]
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Registered: 09/23/06
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Loc: Bad Axe, MI
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How much is this oil??
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#1234152 - 09/11/08 03:08 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
[Re: daman]
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Registered: 10/25/07
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Loc: Somerset County, PA
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Sorry daman, just worked my way back here. J-D lubes seem to vary dramatically in price, based on your location. Here in SW PA, the last I checked, 0W-40 runs between $4.50 and $5.50/qt, depending on whether you buy it by the quart or in 5 gallon buckets.
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#1234247 - 09/11/08 05:58 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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#1234760 - 09/12/08 01:58 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
[Re: Finklejag]
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Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Somerset County, PA
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Esso Imperial, Canada, per the J-D MSDS sheet http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain
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#1235440 - 09/13/08 04:31 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 09/23/06
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Sorry daman, just worked my way back here. J-D lubes seem to vary dramatically in price, based on your location. Here in SW PA, the last I checked, 0W-40 runs between $4.50 and $5.50/qt, depending on whether you buy it by the quart or in 5 gallon buckets. Not to bad if it's turns out to be a good oil..
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#1236195 - 09/15/08 08:03 AM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 09/23/06
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Loc: Bad Axe, MI
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Really?? should make for a great oil then?????
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#1236237 - 09/15/08 09:20 AM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 09/23/06
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Loc: Bad Axe, MI
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Am i missing somthing?, i'm showing; Chevron Texaco Global Lubricants Chevron Texaco Global Lubricants (Chevron Pdts Lubricants & Specialty Pdts) US and i'm reading a semi-synthetic, JD web site sounds like a full syn.?
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#1237589 - 09/17/08 11:01 AM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
[Re: daman]
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Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 1099
Loc: Somerset County, PA
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daman - At their MSDS site http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain using Keyword "plus-50 0w-40 oil" I got 1 John Deere Plus 50/Supreme Engine Oil 0W-40 Esso Petroleum Canada/Esso Imperial Oil/Pétrolière Impériale MSDS/SDS 2003-07-04 English 1182099  You're right - the J-D site says "100 percent synthetic base oil", but the bottle I have under my desk (I like to keep one handy!!!) says "synthetic blend". I dunno??
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#1246390 - 09/29/08 08:30 PM
Re: John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40
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Registered: 09/23/06
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daman - At their MSDS site http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain using Keyword "plus-50 0w-40 oil" I got 1 John Deere Plus 50/Supreme Engine Oil 0W-40 Esso Petroleum Canada/Esso Imperial Oil/Pétrolière Impériale MSDS/SDS 2003-07-04 English 1182099  You're right - the J-D site says "100 percent synthetic base oil", but the bottle I have under my desk (I like to keep one handy!!!) says "synthetic blend". I dunno?? Hmmm, ok thanks 
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