John Deere Supreme "Plus 50" 0W-40

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A VOA on J-D's semi-syn 0W-40 that I've just recently started using in my J-D X595 tractor (24 HP 3 cyl. Yanmar diesel).

RON: Everything looks fine in this sample of virgin 0W/40 oil. The TBN starts out strong at 9.4, which is a common reading for a new diesel use oil like this. The additive package is also strong and should do well in your tractor. No water or insolubles were found. The iron isn't a problem and neither is the silicon. Silicon at this level may be from a little anti-foam additive. The viscosity was right in the middle of the 40W range, though that will drop a little after the oil sees use (like it does with all oils). In any case, this oil is perfectly serviceable.

ALUMINUM: 0
CHROMIUM: 0
IRON: 2
COPPER: 0
LEAD: 0
TIN: 0
MOLY: 94
NICKEL: 0
MANGANESE: 0
SILVER: 0
TITANIUM: 0
POTASSIUM: 0
BORON: 123
SILICON: 4
SODIUM: 2
CALCIUM: 2659
MAGNESIUM: 289
PHOSPHOROUS: 1226
ZINC: 1416
BARIUM: 0

SUS VISC. @210F: 76.9
Cst Visc. @100C: 14.73
Flashpoint: 425
Fuel %: —
Antifreeze %: —
Water %: 0.0
Insolubles %: 0.0
TBN: 9.4
TAN:
ISO Code:

Interesting that the Blackstone VOA shows a TBN of 9.4. At the J-D page describing the product http://www.deere.com/en_US/parts/partsinfo/oils_and_lubricants/oil_0w40.html they note a TBN of 12.8. Seems like quite a difference!!

 

[addyguy]

Even with the TBN discrepency, I'm still really impressed with this oil! Love that add-pack with moly and boron. This oil 'looks' a lot like M1 0W-40, the add pack seems similar in that it uses both those elements, but it also has the advantage of the high Zinc number.

 

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We're looking at stocking up on this for our other J-D diesel equipment as well, especially since the local J-D guy is having a January lube/filter sale right now.

We'd been using Rotella "T" 5w-40, but, the numbers from this http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1040289#Post1040289 VOA seems to show the "T" getting a bit weak in the ZDDP's as it were. Maybe we're over-worrying about nothing as regards the T's numbers, but, those J-D diesels aren't cheap to fix. We'd really rather not take a chance.

Hmmm. I have a stash of CI-4+ "T" 5-40, maybe I'll send some of that out for a VOA before I hide from the falling sky.

 

[pickled]

Bump

 

[daman]

How much is this oil??

 

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Quote:
How much is this oil??

Sorry daman, just worked my way back here. J-D lubes seem to vary dramatically in price, based on your location. Here in SW PA, the last I checked, 0W-40 runs between $4.50 and $5.50/qt, depending on whether you buy it by the quart or in 5 gallon buckets.

 

[Finklejag]

So who makes this oil?

 

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Quote:
So who makes this oil?


Esso Imperial, Canada, per the J-D MSDS sheet http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: RWEST
Quote:
How much is this oil??

Sorry daman, just worked my way back here. J-D lubes seem to vary dramatically in price, based on your location. Here in SW PA, the last I checked, 0W-40 runs between $4.50 and $5.50/qt, depending on whether you buy it by the quart or in 5 gallon buckets.

Not to bad if it's turns out to be a good oil..

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: RWEST
Quote:
So who makes this oil?


Esso Imperial, Canada, per the J-D MSDS sheet http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain

Really??

should make for a great oil then?????

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: RWEST
Quote:
So who makes this oil?


Esso Imperial, Canada, per the J-D MSDS sheet http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain

Am i missing somthing?, i'm showing;

Chevron Texaco Global Lubricants
Chevron Texaco Global Lubricants (Chevron Pdts Lubricants & Specialty Pdts) US

and i'm reading a semi-synthetic, JD web site sounds like a full syn.?

 

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daman -
At their MSDS site http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain using Keyword "plus-50 0w-40 oil"

I got
1 John Deere Plus 50/Supreme Engine Oil 0W-40
Esso Petroleum Canada/Esso Imperial Oil/Pétrolière Impériale MSDS/SDS
2003-07-04
English 1182099

You're right - the J-D site says "100 percent synthetic base oil", but the bottle I have under my desk (I like to keep one handy!!!) says "synthetic blend". I dunno??

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: RWEST
daman -
At their MSDS site http://eservice.msds.com/servlet/SSMain using Keyword "plus-50 0w-40 oil"

I got
1 John Deere Plus 50/Supreme Engine Oil 0W-40
Esso Petroleum Canada/Esso Imperial Oil/Pétrolière Impériale MSDS/SDS
2003-07-04
English 1182099

You're right - the J-D site says "100 percent synthetic base oil", but the bottle I have under my desk (I like to keep one handy!!!) says "synthetic blend". I dunno??

Hmmm, ok thanks

 

[brow]

Stupid question - would this oil be OK on my 5.7L Toyota gasser? It's an '07 Tundra, calls for 0W20 but dealer puts in 0W30.

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: brow
Stupid question - would this oil be OK on my 5.7L Toyota gasser? It's an '07 Tundra, calls for 0W20 but dealer puts in 0W30.

i think it would be a great choice,if your outa warranty sure go for it,mileage may suffer just a bit but besides that no problem,i know a guy running 15w40 in his '05.

 

[bfrey64]

Can this oil be used in a 2003 toyota camry 2.4?

 

[daman]

Originally Posted By: bfrey64
Can this oil be used in a 2003 toyota camry 2.4?

Dont see why not,whats factory spec? 0/20?