Moth balls in gas tank

Posted by: Ray

Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 01:30 AM

Does anyone know if adding moth balls to the gas tank will increase gas mileage?
Posted by: Ray

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 01:43 AM

Here is a link: http://www.georgenitta.com/mothballs/mothballs.htm
Posted by: Pablo

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 01:46 AM

no

don't waste time squirting WD-40 in there either
Posted by: Winston

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 02:09 AM

Did you read the other tips?

Drill a hole in your thermostat?

Use synthetic oil and change it every 3000 miles.

Use Royal Purple oil because he tested it in his shop?

Use Fram Tough Gaurd oil filter?

Use Autolite Racing spark plugs?

If you use regular spark plugs get autolite platinum and cut off the tip?!?!?

Why don't the auto manufacturers call him for advice?
Posted by: kenw

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 02:17 AM

think of it this way: what happens to all the non-napthalene (solid) stuff? (hint: it goes nowhere, at best clogging the fuel filter and eventually filling the tank with some unknown gooey mass)

and what is the possible logic of the WD40 anyway? Gasoline already repels water....

I'm thinking this is a joke site.
Posted by: Pablo

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 04:07 AM

some drugged Hawaiian guy is a car expert.

I'm in!
Posted by: labman

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 04:21 AM

Naphthalene is an aromatic like toluene. It should raise the octane rating. Depending on the gas and your engine, that may or may not help anything. Note, beware of the chloro something other products. Can't see anything good happening from adding a chlorinated material to your engine.
Posted by: Shaman

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 04:22 AM

The reading I found said that the old ones would do nothing, and the new ones would create an acid in the oil, and may cause many problems.
Posted by: JAYCEE

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 06:47 AM

Test it in a gas can or a lawn mower.
Posted by: ArBee

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 11:00 PM

Tossing mothballs in the fuel tank to increase octane levels was a trick that people in occupied Europe used in World War II - assuming they had access to the lousy fuel then available. I can't imagine what it did to their engines.
Posted by: Pablo

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/24/05 11:46 PM

You can't say moth balls on TV.
Posted by: jason07-1zzfe

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/25/05 12:14 AM

I didn't know they had them.
Posted by: kenw

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/25/05 12:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Troxell:
I didn't know they had them.

only 49% do.
Posted by: LarryL

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/25/05 01:03 AM

Do you have to hold him by the wings to be sure?
Posted by: nascarnation

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/25/05 07:09 PM

Back in the early 60s when I was in high school I worked in a gas station where the owners raced a flathead Ford stock car. They always put moth balls in the gas, the only obvious effect was it made the exhaust flames on decel look a really neat color.... [Big Grin]
Posted by: Volvohead

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/25/05 08:54 PM

Back then, it was moth balls in the gas and Bon Ami down the carb.

But I'm not sure I'd try either on a modern engine.
Posted by: Volvohead

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ray:
Here is a link: http://www.georgenitta.com/mothballs/mothballs.htm

[LOL!]

Silverstars? Autolite plugs? On every vehicle?
Maybe he's been smoking all that "royal purple".

I can't wait to get my own radio show after I name all my favorite parts and chemicals!
Posted by: Crashbox

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:25 AM

I tried naphthalene mothballs many years ago in my old '65 Coronet 383-4V. Couldn't feel any difference (it seemed to go like a rocket no matter what) but I do know that- at least for a couple of days- the idle was substantially smoother. One could hear the mothballs roll around in there, though, even with that thing being as LOUD as it was!
Posted by: XS650

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvohead:
Back then, it was moth balls in the gas and Bon Ami down the carb.

But I'm not sure I'd try either on a modern engine.

I wouldn't even try it in a vintage engine.
Posted by: XS650

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:39 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvohead:
quote:
Originally posted by Ray:
Here is a link: http://www.georgenitta.com/mothballs/mothballs.htm

[LOL!]

I can't wait to get my own radio show after I name all my favorite parts and chemicals!

quote:
Moth Balls

Moth Balls can be used to increase the octane rating of the gasoline your are using. The higher octane not only increases power, but will also increase gas mileage. The ratio is 5 moth balls for every 1 gallon of gasoline. Place moth balls in gas tank before fueling the car. Also add 1ounce of WD40 per gallon of gasoline. This will help remove water from the gasoline and make it ignite better.

I don't know about his car, but the fuel filler cap on mine says gasoline, not "dump any old crap in here" [Big Grin]
Posted by: kingrob

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 05:22 AM

Mothballs work great in any engine- you can get up to 17 extra mpg.

More performance tips:

Replace brake fluid and power steering fluid with Amsoil 5w30.

Always run your car a quart low on oil, it gives it better combustion.

Replace antifreeze with a 50/50 mix of Crisco and vinegar.

Keep only 15 psi in your tires during the winter - another extra 5 mpg.

Use honeybee honey as a premium car wax (clearcoat safe).

These are all great tips I've picked up over the years on various auto websites. They're on the internet, they must work...
Posted by: MN Driver

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 06:13 AM

I put that mothball hawaiian guy next to the guy who pours root beer in his gas tank, no thanks george... Did anybody else notice that he linked this page: http://www.ehow.com/how_1331_fill-gas-tank.html He is obviously holding his site for a specific target audience.
Posted by: kenw

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 06:34 AM

What does that say about a society that can look up this info on the WWW but not figure out how to put gas in a car?

"Honey, I'm pulling into the station, could you google some instructions for me on your blackberry?"
Posted by: olympic

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:34 AM

The napthalene in moth balls supposedly has a big effect on diesel engines, similar to propane. I havn't seen it first hand but a friend of mine is an "old trucker" and he said some guys used moth balls for extra power to climb through the mountains.
Posted by: Alex P.

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/26/05 09:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by kenw:
"Honey, I'm pulling into the station, could you google some instructions for me on your blackberry?"

I have a more positive outlook on the future. You see, I'm looking forward to Skynet taking over and Terminators roaming the wasted surface of the Earth, killing every living thing. Yeah, yeah, I know... I'm an optimist.

[Big Grin]
ANYWAY, that site has to be a joke site. It can't be real. It's impossible. Read through all the tips. "Tip 47: Hose down everything with Silicone spray. EVERYTHING. I mean rubber, plastic, SERPENTINE BELTS, SEATS, YOUR WIFE, THE NEIGHBOR'S CAT, EVERYTHING DAMNIT!"
Posted by: V1

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/27/05 04:54 AM

If only cave men could read english.
Posted by: dave1251

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/27/05 11:31 PM

Sounds like the guy who wanted to run 100% rubbing alcohol in his car.
Posted by: slider

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 02:54 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kingrob:
[QB] Mothballs work great in any engine- you can get up to 17 extra mpg.

More performance tips:

Replace brake fluid and power steering fluid with Amsoil 5w30.

Always run your car a quart low on oil, it gives it better combustion.

Replace antifreeze with a 50/50 mix of Crisco and vinegar.

Keep only 15 psi in your tires during the winter - another extra 5 mpg.

Use honeybee honey as a premium car wax (clearcoat safe).

***

My father told me of a guy he knew in the 30's that used to claim great benefits from 'waxing' your car with motor oil.
Posted by: kingrob

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 03:24 AM

I've heard that one to, from my great grandpa (another 1930's creative genius). He also used brake fluid to clean the dash and bacon grease as a gasket sealant. His oft-quoted motto was "The first thing to do when you buy a new car is throw the owners manual out the window".

Hey Slider- maybe the guy your father knew in the thirties was my great-grandfather! He was a salesman that travelled all over the US and Canada. If it wasn't for the fact that he passed away several years back I'd swear he was the one coming up with all this internet misinformation.
Posted by: labman

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 03:25 AM

Some of you need to quit laughing and look at the facts. The old naphthalene moth balls should increase the octane rating just like toluene, which in some cases will increase mileage.
Posted by: Alex P.

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 06:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by labman:
Some of you need to quit laughing and look at the facts. The old naphthalene moth balls should increase the octane rating just like toluene, which in some cases will increase mileage.

I don't think anyone said pure napthalene didn't do this. I'm not including potential issues with long term use of napthalene mothballs, because I don't know anyone who has done this often in a modern vehicle. But it doesn't even matter, as we're talking about mothballs in the year 2005. Many mothballs use paradichlorobenzene instead of naphthalene. So people heeding his "advice" may well be throwing that in their tank instead. Did you even read all his "tips"? Some of them are real winners.
Posted by: TooManyWheels

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 07:06 PM

quote:
Back then, it was moth balls in the gas and Bon Ami down the carb.

But I'm not sure I'd try either on a modern engine.
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I wouldn't even try it in a vintage engine.

It has been mentioned on this board that at one point a scouring cleanser was some manufacturers worst case cure for rings that would not seat. I don't remember how it was applied, but running it through the bearings in the oil doesn't sound like a good idea so maybe they did dissolve it in gas and pour it down the carb.
Posted by: Pablo

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 07:29 PM

quote:
Some of you need to quit laughing and look at the facts. The old naphthalene moth balls should increase the octane rating just like toluene, which in some cases will increase mileage.
Can I get a cost benifit study on this, Herb?

My gut response was based on today's moth balls.

Paraquat is an effective weed smoking deterent.
Posted by: Pablo

Re: Moth balls in gas tank - 08/28/05 07:38 PM

quote:
Replace brake fluid and power steering fluid with Amsoil 5w30.
Why are you guy's alway's picking on Amsoil? [Cool] [Big Grin]