Nazi loot train purportedly found in Poland

[javacontour]

Beware extremists on both the left and the right. I don't think the Bolsheviks were a paragon of virtue and fair play either.

So the problem is extremists, not if they are left or right leaning.

Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Also, may or may not be relevant: The precursor to the Nazi were the "Brownshirts."

Nazi is the adopted name of the elected German Socialist Worker's Party, if my elementary school education serves me correctly. They adopted the Brownshirts as their uniform.

Naziism started AFTER Hitler came to power, and had the nation eating out of a spoon.

Much like today, but, we won't go there.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Also, may or may not be relevant: The precursor to the Nazi were the "Brownshirts."

Nazi is the adopted name of the elected German Socialist Worker's Party, if my elementary school education serves me correctly. They adopted the Brownshirts as their uniform.



Few know that Hilter had actually sent agents over HERE to try and start a Brownshirt movement, and stir up (even more than there already was in this country) anti-Semitism, in the early to late 1930s.

They actually did get organized, and had a decent amount of members in some areas with high numbers of those of German/Aryan ancestry (Essex County N.J., Pa., mid-west, Tx., etc.).

I know this because MY ancestors in this country actually fought them tooth and nail EVERY chance they could.
Breaking up their Bund meetings in various ways (yes, some not always 'legal', but then they did not consider the promotion of the idea of them and their loved ones being butchered because of who they were as 'legal' either), starting boycotts against ALL German imports, and the stores that continued to sell them, trying to bend the ear of both local AND national politicians (who were not Nazi sympathizers themselves!) to do something, and picket lines/protests (which were legal) in front of their rallies and meeting halls.

The book, "Nazis In Newark" explains it all very well, and even mentions my paternal grandfather in it's pages.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Jetronic
Originally Posted By: dailydriver


THANK YOU!!

I am getting VERY sick and tired of all the Nazi apologists on here!

I haven't seen any Nazi apologists here.

But what I do see is evidence of the same mindset that prevailed in germany at the time of the nazi party rise to popularity and later power, and THAT is disconcerting (disgruntled ex-service men, and the "you're with us or you're against us" mentality for starters).


Just because you have not "seen" them, does not mean they are not here.
Yes, I am more sensitive than most on here about this type of thing, but that also allows me to "read between the lines" about much that is written on here, and see what is REALLY being said/thought/expressed.

But I DO agree with you on that scary, very troubling "mindset" which is invariably extreme right wing oriented.
(Although YES, javacontour, the extreme left is just as bad, but NOT as much of a threat, nor as numerous and powerful, nor organized, as the far right wing in THIS country).

 

[Panzerman]

I really think the whole post is getting hi-jacked. The Nazis were evil and the Japanese as bad or worse on human atrocities, I think we all get it. They got defeated, people liberated. Lets get back to the coolness of finding this train. That is too cool. I would love to get my hands on a Smeissler machine gun. That's a remarkable find. There is so much mystery surrounding the Germans during the war. The secret weapons were decades if not centuries ahead of their time. Who knows what they will find on that train. I was surprised when I went to Georgia and toured a fort, they said there was a Confederate Ironclad sank outside the fort. They just left it there to rust away. You think someone would want to bring it up, since it was in shallow water. I was surprised. I hope this train ends up in a Smithsonian museum. I am not even sure if any Tiger Tanks still exist to see. People need to embrace history. It was a interesting period of technology, yet everyone dwells on the carnage and death. We got it, no one is forgetting. But hey, lets check out the train.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Panzerman
I really think the whole post is getting hi-jacked. The Nazis were evil and the Japanese as bad or worse on human atrocities, I think we all get it. They got defeated, people liberated. Lets get back to the coolness of finding this train. That is too cool. I would love to get my hands on a Smeissler machine gun. That's a remarkable find. There is so much mystery surrounding the Germans during the war. The secret weapons were decades if not centuries ahead of their time. Who knows what they will find on that train. I was surprised when I went to Georgia and toured a fort, they said there was a Confederate Ironclad sank outside the fort. They just left it there to rust away. You think someone would want to bring it up, since it was in shallow water. I was surprised. I hope this train ends up in a Smithsonian museum. I am not even sure if any Tiger Tanks still exist to see. People need to embrace history. It was a interesting period of technology, yet everyone dwells on the carnage and death. We got it, no one is forgetting. But hey, lets check out the train.

Thank you.

 

[CurtisB]

I can't wait for pictures, this stuff is just fascinating.

 

[expat]

Quote) I am not even sure if any Tiger Tanks still exist to see. [/quote]


There is at least one to be seen at the Bovington Tank museum in England.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_131

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: expat
Quote) I am not even sure if any Tiger Tanks still exist to see.



There is at least one to be seen at the Bovington Tank museum in England.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_131 [/quote]

I think the dentists drilled all the big cats.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I think there is also one at Aberdeen.

 

[Jetronic]

http://www.december44.com/en/tiger-213.htm

there's a king tiger (köningstiger)

 

[OVERKILL]

Update to this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...art-SPRING.html

Quote:
Treasure hunters scouring the woods above the tunnel where the Nazi train is said to be hidden have claimed to have found a Nazi Eagle, gold coins and other WWII memorabilia which they say is 'proof' it may really be packed with priceless jewels.
The local two men, who refused to be named, recovered the 'treasure' from the hill in Walbrzych, Poland, which has become the centre of fevered speculation over the last two weeks, ever since it was revealed two men had 'discovered' a Nazi train hidden in a secret tunnel underneath it.
They showed MailOnline pictures of coins, a German helmet and a Nazi Eagle they found at the site, adding: 'There is still a lot of treasure like this lying around. If that train is in the tunnel, it could well contain more of this, a lot more.'

Even the Polish government poured fuel on the fire, with one minister saying they were 99 per cent certain the train was hidden under a hill.
Poland's Deputy Minister of Culture, Piotr Zuchowski described the find as 'unprecedented', adding: 'We do not know what is inside the train.
'Probably military equipment but also possibly jewellery, works of art and archive documents.
'Armoured trains from this period were used to carry extremely valuable items and this is an armoured train, it is a big clue.'
It sparked a frenzy with treasure hunters as far away as Japan descending on the area. With a fear that there are still booby-traps in the area left by the Nazis and that people may be tempted to start digging for the so-called treasures themselves, authorities have now closed off the 4km site.
And when MailOnline visited the site yesterday, burly plainclothes operatives were spotted setting up sophisticated monitoring equipment near an unmarked black van sitting next to the location identified by a town council source - said to be '200 metres away' from the official from the site where the Nazi gold train is believed to be hidden.


Lots more (including pics) in the article.

 

[hattaresguy]

I'd say it looks like they think something is their. Waiting to spring is probably a good idea, at least they can start a proper dig going into the good weather without being rushed.

 

[InfmousCornholio]

I am reminded of the Amazon series The Man In the High Chair from this topic.