I had a little trouble getting this one apart due to the can damage from removal (I did not do it).
It has 19,275 miles on 2 OCI. It was installed in May of 2014. running on the Civic with M1 5/20EP.
The oil is in the mail for a UOA
[Cut Open] Fram Filtration XG7317 Ultra 19,275 mi
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I had a little trouble getting this one apart due to the can damage from removal (I did not do it).
It has 19,275 miles on 2 OCI. It was installed in May of 2014. running on the Civic with M1 5/20EP.
The oil is in the mail for a UOA
Not bad!
Did you replace it with more M1EP and another XG7317?
Would you use a cheap jobber filter for 20k? (Honda says this is OK)
Did you replace it with more M1EP and another XG7317?
Would you use a cheap jobber filter for 20k? (Honda says this is OK)
Eventually, people are going to have to accept that this filter is in fact not only good for the rated 15,000 miles, but even more in a good engine.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Not bad!
I thought it did pretty well, this is officially over Frams 15K statement but within Honda's recommendation (2 - 10K OCI)
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Did you replace it with more M1EP and another XG7317?
I did - Or actually my friends at the dealer did due to circumstances.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Would you use a cheap jobber filter for 20k? (Honda says this is OK)
I had intended to run this for as close to a flat 20K as possible, but a trip that would put it WELL over 20K required a slightly early change.
Not bad!
I thought it did pretty well, this is officially over Frams 15K statement but within Honda's recommendation (2 - 10K OCI)
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Did you replace it with more M1EP and another XG7317?
I did - Or actually my friends at the dealer did due to circumstances.
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Would you use a cheap jobber filter for 20k? (Honda says this is OK)
I had intended to run this for as close to a flat 20K as possible, but a trip that would put it WELL over 20K required a slightly early change.
Gotta love the Fram Ultra. The only filter I use now. .
A $9 oil filter that goes two oil changes. A no brainer.
A $9 oil filter that goes two oil changes. A no brainer.
Thanks for the cut and post Robert ;-)
Nice. I understand you needed to change it because of your trip, but it looks like it could have gone longer.
Thanks for posting this.
Thanks for posting this.
Nice
Nice, haven't seen many Ultras on here actually utilized to their ability.
Then again the UOA section is swimming in 5-6k Mobil 1 UOA's so certainly understandable.
Then again the UOA section is swimming in 5-6k Mobil 1 UOA's so certainly understandable.
UOA will tell the tale.
Looks excellent. And someone who got a ROI from buying and using an Ultra. ~19k miles in ~1 year would lead to the conclusion a good amount of highway miles, easier on fiters and engines. No problem here going past the 15k mile recommendation, especially so over two ocis.
As for UOA, Blackstone has said in the past and is posted/archived here that they see no significant difference in any filter used in standard UOA results, especially as related to insolubles. Even the UOA from Puro tear anecdotes haven't shown anything remarkable other than not being remarkable.
So I expect the UOA results to be more related to oil used and oci, not fci. I'd expect the results to be within normal limits.
Thanks for the pics.
As for UOA, Blackstone has said in the past and is posted/archived here that they see no significant difference in any filter used in standard UOA results, especially as related to insolubles. Even the UOA from Puro tear anecdotes haven't shown anything remarkable other than not being remarkable.
So I expect the UOA results to be more related to oil used and oci, not fci. I'd expect the results to be within normal limits.
Thanks for the pics.
Originally Posted By: ExMachina
How does one know if its clogged? Bypass events are hidden.
Shouldn't take it past the recommended limit of 15k miles just in case.
Agree with the above statement. I'm willing to bet the filter will look just as good after 40k due to its construction.
How does one know if its clogged? Bypass events are hidden.
Shouldn't take it past the recommended limit of 15k miles just in case.
Agree with the above statement. I'm willing to bet the filter will look just as good after 40k due to its construction.
Typical of all the Ultras I have cut open they all look great with millage all over the place. Built like a tank it's the only filter I use now they just hold up great. I feel the Fram Ultra is the new benchmark in oil filters.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
... ~19k miles in ~1 year would lead to the conclusion a good amount of highway miles, easier on filters and engines. ...
It did do a trip from ATL to Denver and back as well as a shorter trip to Virginia, but overall it does more rural/errand type travel than pure highway. It does usually make long enough trips to get warm.
... ~19k miles in ~1 year would lead to the conclusion a good amount of highway miles, easier on filters and engines. ...
It did do a trip from ATL to Denver and back as well as a shorter trip to Virginia, but overall it does more rural/errand type travel than pure highway. It does usually make long enough trips to get warm.
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Eventually, people are going to have to accept that this filter is in fact not only good for the rated 15,000 miles, but even more in a good engine.
Filter manufactures recommendation is for various engine conditions(not heavy sludge), therefore it can be used for somewhat more mileage in a good/clean engine, especially for mostly highway driven cars.
Eventually, people are going to have to accept that this filter is in fact not only good for the rated 15,000 miles, but even more in a good engine.
Filter manufactures recommendation is for various engine conditions(not heavy sludge), therefore it can be used for somewhat more mileage in a good/clean engine, especially for mostly highway driven cars.
And here I was worrying two 8k OCIs would push the FU too far.
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