Motul 8100 X-clean 5w40

[VR6OOM]

Euro 4 and 5
VW 502/505
BMW LL-04
ACEA C3
API SERVICES SN / CF
Viscosity grade SAE J 300 5W-40
Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.845
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 84.7 mm²/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 14.1 mm²/s
Viscosity HTHS at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 3.6 mPa.s
Viscosity index ASTM D2270 172
Pour point ASTM D97 -39°C / -38.2°F
Flash point ASTM D92 234°C / 453.2°F
Sulfated ash ASTM D874 0.80% weight
TBN ASTM D2896 7.5 mg KOH/g

The mid saps and high flash have me intrigued for my DI VW. What do you think? Very little info about this oil on the web and BITOG.

More info here: https://www.motul.com/system/product_descriptions/technical_data_sheets/53/original/8100_X-clean_5W-40_(GB).pdf?1370511661

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: VR6OOM
Euro 4 and 5
VW 502/505
BMW LL-04
ACEA C3
API SERVICES SN / CF
Viscosity grade SAE J 300 5W-40
Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.845
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 84.7 mm²/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 14.1 mm²/s
Viscosity HTHS at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 3.6 mPa.s
Viscosity index ASTM D2270 172
Pour point ASTM D97 -39°C / -38.2°F
Flash point ASTM D92 234°C / 453.2°F
Sulfated ash ASTM D874 0.80% weight
TBN ASTM D2896 7.5 mg KOH/g

The mid saps and high flash have me intrigued for my DI VW. What do you think? Very little info about this oil on the web and BITOG.

More info here: https://www.motul.com/system/product_descriptions/technical_data_sheets/53/original/8100_X-clean_5W-40_(GB).pdf?1370511661

For your application in Florida (warm) it is good. I was thinking about it, but not so good pour point was reason why I did not buy it.
Also, consider Pentosin 5W40. Also mid-saps and high respectable oil.

 

[UG_Passat]

iirc, it's ester basestock, which also helps control the intake valve buildup also.

 

[Rguy]

Originally Posted By: VR6OOM
Euro 4 and 5
VW 502/505
BMW LL-04
ACEA C3
API SERVICES SN / CF
Viscosity grade SAE J 300 5W-40
Density at 20°C (68°F) ASTM D1298 0.845
Viscosity at 40°C (104°F) ASTM D445 84.7 mm²/s
Viscosity at 100°C (212°F) ASTM D445 14.1 mm²/s
Viscosity HTHS at 150°C (302°F) ASTM D4741 3.6 mPa.s
Viscosity index ASTM D2270 172
Pour point ASTM D97 -39°C / -38.2°F
Flash point ASTM D92 234°C / 453.2°F
Sulfated ash ASTM D874 0.80% weight
TBN ASTM D2896 7.5 mg KOH/g

The mid saps and high flash have me intrigued for my DI VW. What do you think? Very little info about this oil on the web and BITOG.

More info here: https://www.motul.com/system/product_descriptions/technical_data_sheets/53/original/8100_X-clean_5W-40_(GB).pdf?1370511661


I am using it in my Golf 7R due to the high oil temps it runs (VW thermal dynamics) mine reaches 117C on occasion. The new 7 Gti and R have port and direct injection, so there is no need to be concerned about deposits on the valves. These cars are also not heavy fuel diluting either.

 

[nolesfan]

It's funny you're looking at this oil. I'll be picking up a 5 liter jug from Black Forest Industries tomorrow for my upcoming oil change. I bought it for the same reasons as you for my 2013 GLI.

 

[UG_Passat]

Originally Posted By: Rguy


I am using it in my Golf 7R due to the high oil temps it runs (VW thermal dynamics) mine reaches 117C on occasion. The new 7 Gti and R have port and direct injection, so there is no need to be concerned about deposits on the valves. These cars are also not heavy fuel diluting either.


Not in the US. All of the ea888 gen 3 on the MK7 are direct only. the Golf R, press release also says direct-only.

 

[VR6OOM]

I wonder if 10k oci's are possible with this oil on a mostly highway driven car?

 

[Rguy]

Originally Posted By: UG_Passat
Originally Posted By: Rguy


I am using it in my Golf 7R due to the high oil temps it runs (VW thermal dynamics) mine reaches 117C on occasion. The new 7 Gti and R have port and direct injection, so there is no need to be concerned about deposits on the valves. These cars are also not heavy fuel diluting either.


Not in the US. All of the ea888 gen 3 on the MK7 are direct only. the Golf R, press release also says direct-only.


Wow, Im shocked, they are duel injection everywhere else in the world. Not very clever of them.

 

[Rguy]

Check this out, I done see VW making it only DI...

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswagen-...LLCC=2986168441


GTI fulfils Euro-6 emissions standard. As noted, a dual injection system – with direct injection and multi point injection – was also implemented to conform to the Euro-6 emissions standard. Since the system can freely choose the injection type that is optimal at any given time, it possible to reduce particulate emissions over broad map regions and also reduce fuel consumption. Another focus of development was to significantly reduce internal friction. This involved such modifications as changing over the balancer shafts to anti-friction bearings, optimising the crankshaft drive and developing an oil pump that operates only as needed. In parallel, the weight of the GTI engine was reduced as well. A large portion of the savings came from the new thin-wall crankcase that is only 3 mm thick, a weight-optimised crankshaft, exhaust gas cooling by integrating the exhaust manifold in the cylinder head, a plastic oil pan and the use of aluminium screws.

 

[Jetronic]

Euro-6 is meaningless in the USA though.