Put the [censored] Cat 707HP SuperCharged 6.2 HEMI V8 & I'd be interested in it! Until then Ford can keep it's Eco Doom garbage!
Ford GT coming back, Again.
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
How would a mid engined V12 make the car nose heavy?
I completely understand the reasoning behind the V6TT, but I hope to God they make the exhaust sound good to make up for it. I have heard 05-06 GTs with the FRPP/Borla rear exit headers with no mufflers, and they completely ruined me as far as exhaust.
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
How would a mid engined V12 make the car nose heavy?
I completely understand the reasoning behind the V6TT, but I hope to God they make the exhaust sound good to make up for it. I have heard 05-06 GTs with the FRPP/Borla rear exit headers with no mufflers, and they completely ruined me as far as exhaust.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Whatever engine Ford uses, I bet it still leaks oil from its rear main seal.
Only the moment its out of warranty. Before that it just "weeps".
Whatever engine Ford uses, I bet it still leaks oil from its rear main seal.
Only the moment its out of warranty. Before that it just "weeps".
Originally Posted By: dwcopple
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
I'm a huge fan of the V-6 also. Two less cylinders to feed makes for better MPGs.
Yeah, because people that buy Ford GT's are extremely concerned about fuel economy...good grief
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Originally Posted By: Silverado12
I'm a huge fan of the V-6 also. Two less cylinders to feed makes for better MPGs.
Yeah, because people that buy Ford GT's are extremely concerned about fuel economy...good grief
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.... think it will be a "dog" like old Corvettes, or a Lexus LFA?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
Its a mid-ie. A few years ago Ford bought out an updated Shelby Cobra concept car that had a V-10 or V-12 engine in It (probably just a mock-up). Wish they would've kept it going in development. But as already mentioned, they want to push the Eco boost as much as possible. They've bet the house on it, so I can't blame them.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Whatever engine Ford uses, I bet it still leaks oil from its rear main seal.
Ha ha. Ain't that the truth. I can drive my vintage Fords normal-like all year long without a drop coming out of the rear oil seal, but hit the red line a few times, and thar-she-blows, or at least seeps a bit.
Z.
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
Its a mid-ie. A few years ago Ford bought out an updated Shelby Cobra concept car that had a V-10 or V-12 engine in It (probably just a mock-up). Wish they would've kept it going in development. But as already mentioned, they want to push the Eco boost as much as possible. They've bet the house on it, so I can't blame them.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Whatever engine Ford uses, I bet it still leaks oil from its rear main seal.
Ha ha. Ain't that the truth. I can drive my vintage Fords normal-like all year long without a drop coming out of the rear oil seal, but hit the red line a few times, and thar-she-blows, or at least seeps a bit.
Z.
Originally Posted By: zray
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
Its a mid-dy..
Doh!
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: zray
A brand new V-12 would"ve been something special.
I'm thinking it would make this car incredibly nose heavy.
Its a mid-dy..
Doh!
"The only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money" - A guy named Yunick. I believe he said that after looking over one of the Jim Hall Cam Am V8 monsters. Smokey, as he was known, knew a bit about NASCAR.
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
"The only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money" - A guy named Yunick. I believe he said that after looking over one of the Jim Hall Cam Am V8 monsters. Smokey, as he was known, knew a bit about NASCAR.
I met him when I was just a kid in the late 1950's at my uncles shop. My uncle was building some engines for some of the NASCAR crowd at the time, when NASCAR was a south only racing thing. I went with my Uncle several times to the Ford dealer and picked up engines that were drop shipped there from Ford Dearborn, and marked experimental .
Z.
"The only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money" - A guy named Yunick. I believe he said that after looking over one of the Jim Hall Cam Am V8 monsters. Smokey, as he was known, knew a bit about NASCAR.
I met him when I was just a kid in the late 1950's at my uncles shop. My uncle was building some engines for some of the NASCAR crowd at the time, when NASCAR was a south only racing thing. I went with my Uncle several times to the Ford dealer and picked up engines that were drop shipped there from Ford Dearborn, and marked experimental .
Z.
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
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Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Love those cars! I saw a new one on the floor in 2006 from a dealer going out of business and it sold for about 45K--I should have bought it.
WHAT?!?!? I wish I had seen that.
Some dealers you wouldn't expect got GTs.
A small town dealer where I grew up had a new one in the showroom for a long time. White with blue stripes.
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Love those cars! I saw a new one on the floor in 2006 from a dealer going out of business and it sold for about 45K--I should have bought it.
WHAT?!?!? I wish I had seen that.
Some dealers you wouldn't expect got GTs.
A small town dealer where I grew up had a new one in the showroom for a long time. White with blue stripes.
I'm not upset about Ford using a turbo V6. Some of my favorite cars of all time have 6 cylinders and turbos.
Originally Posted By: dwcopple
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
I'm a huge fan of the V-6 also. Two less cylinders to feed makes for better MPGs.
Yeah, because people that buy Ford GT's are extremely concerned about fuel economy...good grief
actually less fuel consumption means a smaller tank so more weight reduction. Makes a quicker and better handling car. Also means less tire wear as well.
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
I'm a huge fan of the V-6 also. Two less cylinders to feed makes for better MPGs.
Yeah, because people that buy Ford GT's are extremely concerned about fuel economy...good grief
actually less fuel consumption means a smaller tank so more weight reduction. Makes a quicker and better handling car. Also means less tire wear as well.
Originally Posted By: kkspeed
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
IMO having seen both in person the build quality of the Ford is not comparable to a Ferrari.
Not even close.
Examine the details and I can't imagine anyone would feel differently...
Not even close.
Examine the details and I can't imagine anyone would feel differently...
Ferrari is a better car, I'd take the F car thanks. Never drove the GT, sat in a number and they are just a Mustang with the motor out back.
Originally Posted By: zray
Originally Posted By: kkspeed
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ferrari/enzo-ferrari/2004/279311
The 612 is a better car than the GT BTW.
Originally Posted By: kkspeed
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ferrari/enzo-ferrari/2004/279311
The 612 is a better car than the GT BTW.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: zray
Originally Posted By: kkspeed
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ferrari/enzo-ferrari/2004/279311
The 612 is a better car than the GT BTW.
kinda funny how the 2005 Ferrari 612 has lost 50% it's value, while at the same time the 2005 Ford GT has gained 65%.
However great the 612 is, The demand for the 612 is weak, and as it turns out, a lousy investment. I'll take the Ford.
Z
Originally Posted By: zray
Originally Posted By: kkspeed
In my opinion, the problem with the new Ford GT will be the build quality of the car. In short, it will be the same standard as a $40,00 Mustang GT. Up to the current industry standard for a $40,000 car, but no where close to the super-car standard.
I work as a part-time race car mechanic on a race team that runs in the SCCA.
The rich owner of the team drives the race cars and periodically keeps some of his "toys" in the race shop. He has a dark blue Ford GT. Great to look at, but open and shut the doors and it feels like a Mustang. The build quality is not there... The paint and fit of the body panels scream Mustang, not Porsche. No where close to the quality of his Ferrari's.
the 2005/2006 Ford GT retailed for $149,995 when new, Now one of them will set you back $250,000.
Any 2005 Ferrari's selling for that when new ? No there weren't. The 2005 Ferrari 612 sold for a cool $250,000 when new. And the current value is $121,000.
I'll take the Ford.
Z.
http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/ferrari/enzo-ferrari/2004/279311
The 612 is a better car than the GT BTW.
kinda funny how the 2005 Ferrari 612 has lost 50% it's value, while at the same time the 2005 Ford GT has gained 65%.
However great the 612 is, The demand for the 612 is weak, and as it turns out, a lousy investment. I'll take the Ford.
Z
Originally Posted By: zray
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
"The only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money" - A guy named Yunick. I believe he said that after looking over one of the Jim Hall Cam Am V8 monsters. Smokey, as he was known, knew a bit about NASCAR.
I met him when I was just a kid in the late 1950's at my uncles shop. My uncle was building some engines for some of the NASCAR crowd at the time, when NASCAR was a south only racing thing. I went with my Uncle several times to the Ford dealer and picked up engines that were drop shipped there from Ford Dearborn, and marked experimental .
Z.
THE last of those was, as I recall, the Ovehead Cam 427 Ford which was not allowed to run a NASCAR RACE.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
"The only substitute for cubic inches is cubic money" - A guy named Yunick. I believe he said that after looking over one of the Jim Hall Cam Am V8 monsters. Smokey, as he was known, knew a bit about NASCAR.
I met him when I was just a kid in the late 1950's at my uncles shop. My uncle was building some engines for some of the NASCAR crowd at the time, when NASCAR was a south only racing thing. I went with my Uncle several times to the Ford dealer and picked up engines that were drop shipped there from Ford Dearborn, and marked experimental .
Z.
THE last of those was, as I recall, the Ovehead Cam 427 Ford which was not allowed to run a NASCAR RACE.
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