Switching Oil brands?

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What is the general consensus here? My Dad was a firm believer in buying a good quality brand oil and sticking with that same brand as long as he owned the vehicle. I know several mechanics who have the same opinion.

Lately, I have mainly bought name brand synthetics and just purchased the brand that was priced the best at the time. Looking forward to hearing some opinions here.
 
Originally Posted By: Rosetta
Don't think that "keep the brand" applies to synthetic oils ... they're other steer.

Even thou the "Mobil 2" is the cumulus of keeping the brand and same lot of oil, Rsrsrs ...
 
I dont think it matters. If it did then every engine ever produced would be doomed because oil companies revamp their oils regularly. The freshest one to mind is Pennzoil and their natural gas based lubes. Going from the old pennzoil platinum to the new natural gas based version is essentially the same as switching brands.
 
The times have changed. Maybe in your dad's time but motor oil has come a long way. I remember when I first joined BITOG when people used to argue about changing motor oil brand and increased wear. In 2014 i believe its a wash.
 
I agree with this, when considering long OCI's with syn oils.
Here's my experience:

In the early 2000's, my GF and I got her a 97 Escort. It was a fantastic little machine that i swore by syn oil changes early in it's life/ I tried running no-name syn oil to see if there was any consumption or leaks(which there was none) so I proceeded to doing 20kms OCI's with M1 5w30, with filter changes at 10kms intervals.

The car loved it. Never burnt or leaked a drop of oil over the following 4 years despite being flogged with WOT on cold -30C starts (hey, I was young and dumb and the car was paid off, what did I care!

Then one day on a whim, I saw there was a sale on penn synthetic (some older formulation from the mid 2000's) and I thought I'd try the same OCI.

The car didn't like it. After 6-7000kms the car started consuming the oil. I topped it up just to keep it running until I could get time and supplies for another OC back to M1. I honestly thought that little stint ruined the motor forever.

After switching back to M1, the car was easily able to do the 20km OCI's again without breaking a sweat or burning anymore oil.

After that little experiment, I've realized that once you get a motor accustomed to a certain additive pack, the seals and engine will work a certain way.

Was my experiment scientific and in a closed lab? nope.
But it proved to me that if you wanna get good results, stick with a decent oil and be confident in your extended OCI's, esp with all the supporting info on a site like this.

We ultimatly sold the car, not because anythign broke, but simply we got bored of it. Something I'm realizing again with my 07 Focus

happy motoring!
 
I also am one who picks a good brand oil and sticks with it. Some oils behave differently in some engines because of whatever. We often see increased oil consumption when switching brands for 2 or more oil changes. I am of the opinion that a partial re-break-in is occurring and it takes some time for the consumption to reduce to the former usage. JMO. Ed
 
I think it all depends on the car.
I recently ran a 13k OCI of M1 in my CR-V. It has been on a diet of only PP 5w20 for 3+ years, not burning any oil between 10k changes.
I burned a whole quart over 13k with M1. I'm now back to PP and it hasn't burned any in the last 2k.
The UOA (which I can't figure out how to post, help!) came back sparkling for the M1 but it was consumed a little bit.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris Meutsch
I think it all depends on the car.
I recently ran a 13k OCI of M1 in my CR-V. It has been on a diet of only PP 5w20 for 3+ years, not burning any oil between 10k changes.
I burned a whole quart over 13k with M1. I'm now back to PP and it hasn't burned any in the last 2k.
The UOA (which I can't figure out how to post, help!) came back sparkling for the M1 but it was consumed a little bit.


Interesting you mention a CR-V. That is the particular vehicle (my wife's 2008 CR-V) I am curious about. It has had mainly M1 EP 5w-20 it's whole life. I had some AAP coupons and decided to try Castrol Edge EP 0w-20. The special came with 2 Fram Ultra filters and will hardly cost me anything after the rebates come back.

Oil consumption was the reason I decided to try something different. I follow the maintenance minder on the car and it gets to 15% at about 9,500 miles. I normally change before it hits 10k. I normally have to top off the oil with about a 1/2 quart per interval.
 
Originally Posted By: klt1986
What is the general consensus here? My Dad was a firm believer in buying a good quality brand oil and sticking with that same brand as long as he owned the vehicle. I know several mechanics who have the same opinion.

Lately, I have mainly bought name brand synthetics and just purchased the brand that was priced the best at the time. Looking forward to hearing some opinions here.



It's highly questionable whether it was ever necessary to stick to one brand. My guess is that people who were diligent about car care probably followed the stick to one brand maxim. That led to he perception that sticking to one brand was important when attention to maintenance was the actual determining factor.
 
At one time in the past, Oil companies recomended to not mix engine oils or gear oils due to different additive packages. Ed
 
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Back in the day the base oils for Pennzoil versus Castrol versus whatever were a lot different from each other regardless of add pack.
Now that the base oils are so processed I would imagine it is a non-issue for base oils but the add packs make up the big difference.
I pretty much stick with SOPUS syn products, so I am not worried about the slight differences.
 
I switch brands all the time and hardly have any consumption issues at all. Maybe a few oz. per every 3k, even at over 210,000 miles. The engine is also nice and clean.
 
When you initially change after a long time with one type of oil, it's not uncommon for some consumption to occur even on a good engine that isn't normally leaking or burning oil. I've never seen a good explanation for why it happens, but a lot of people have commented on it over the years.

When this happens, some people immediately switch back to their old oil, and some don't. The people who switch back see the consumption stop, and then start talking about how their car doesn't like the other oil. Those who stick with the new oil see the consumption continue to decrease until the car is back to normal, and continue to use the new oil.

Like I said, i've never seen any explanation for why it occurs, but the consumption goes away after an OCI or two.


Now I vaguely remember someone posting on here in the last 6 months about how they did some tests on the fleet of vehicles at work, and did UOAs with them. They had some cars that had convention, some had synthetic, some did shorter OCIs, some did longer, some changed brands, some stayed the same, etc. If I recall they were pretty consistent with what they did with each vehicle and did UOAs with them. The surprising thing was, the lower wear numbers wasn't with the vehicles that you expected, their results were that the biggest impact was if you changed oil brands or not. By sticking with a quality oil, their (non-scientific, but still very interesting) experiment showed that sticking to one brand of oil had the biggest impact of keeping wear numbers low.

Now like I said, I vaguely remember the thread so I can very well be butchering what was said in it. I'll see if I can find it when I have some more time.
 
I was from the school that you should stick with one brand oil. I did for 12 years on my bought new F-150. I used Motorcraft 5W-20 and the FL820S filter. This past fall I change it with Havoline 5W-20 synthetic and the Fram XG2. It never used any oil even in 7,500 mile OCI's. Same with the Havoline so far. My Zetec 4 and my wife's V-8 Explorer have always had a variety of semi-synthetic and synthetic oil from new. Neither of them use a drop in up to 9500 mi OCI's. Get whatever oil offers the best value for your driving conditions.

Whimsey
 
Originally Posted By: sicko
When you initially change after a long time with one type of oil, it's not uncommon for some consumption to occur even on a good engine that isn't normally leaking or burning oil. I've never seen a good explanation for why it happens, but a lot of people have commented on it over the years.

Really? I have NEVER experienced such a phenomenon in all of my oil changing days, after switching from one brand to another. Quite interesting though. Maybe others can chime in with their own experiences.
 
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: sicko
When you initially change after a long time with one type of oil, it's not uncommon for some consumption to occur even on a good engine that isn't normally leaking or burning oil. I've never seen a good explanation for why it happens, but a lot of people have commented on it over the years.

Really? I have NEVER experienced such a phenomenon in all of my oil changing days, after switching from one brand to another. Quite interesting though. Maybe others can chime in with their own experiences.


The original post stated that sicko used one brand of oil for a period of time then switched brands and experienced consumption. I bet the consumption stopped after subsequent oil changes. This has been reported time to time.
 
I am super picky about mixing oils, and since you never can completely drain all the residual oil in the block... I am picky about switching brands too.

I try to keep everything as similar as possible.

I don't even like mixing PU from 2010 with PU from 2014
 
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