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#3364581 - 05/07/14 02:32 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
salv Offline


Registered: 04/21/11
Posts: 1137
Loc: Morrisonville, NY
Whatever is my bulk tank!
....or super cheap.


Edited by salv (05/07/14 02:32 PM)
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#3364599 - 05/07/14 02:53 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: salv]
Malo83 Offline


Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 1023
Loc: Cali
Pennzoil for the last 45 years thumbsup

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#3364819 - 05/07/14 06:45 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
Red91 Offline


Registered: 12/09/13
Posts: 480
Loc: Alabama, United States
I choose Quaker State GB because I like the additive package, the price, and the reaction I get when I tell people I use Quaker State. smile

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#3364824 - 05/07/14 06:51 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: Red91]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9031
Loc: Clovis, CA
Looks like I'm the odd man out again. grin

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#3366843 - 05/09/14 03:38 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
CELICA_XX Offline


Registered: 11/28/08
Posts: 222
Loc: Tulsa, OK
I'm astounded that so many people say "price" as a factor in choosing oil. I am a member of many different enthusiast forums, and this place takes the cake when it comes to people trying to use the cheapest stuff possible.

No one from a backpacking club will brag about using a $2.99 backpack on their latest camping trip.

No one from an automotive tire forum gets excited about using a $39 dollar tire from China.

No one from a camping forum is overjoyed with a flash light from the dollar store.

And yet these are all products that will work for a particular task. There are hundreds of other examples like this.




Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.
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#3366894 - 05/09/14 04:41 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: CELICA_XX]
grantsburg Offline


Registered: 09/24/11
Posts: 39
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
I'm astounded that so many people say "price" as a factor in choosing oil. I am a member of many different enthusiast forums, and this place takes the cake when it comes to people trying to use the cheapest stuff possible.

No one from a backpacking club will brag about using a $2.99 backpack on their latest camping trip.

No one from an automotive tire forum gets excited about using a $39 dollar tire from China.

No one from a camping forum is overjoyed with a flash light from the dollar store.

And yet these are all products that will work for a particular task. There are hundreds of other examples like this.


Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.


Guess it doesn't take much to astound you, huh? smile

Long ago I asked a friend of mine who was a mechanic and had tore down his share of engines, what was the best oil to use. His reply? Buy whatever is on sale.

I think his advice is even more true today. As long as one sticks to a name brand, you can't really buy a bad oil, especially if you change your oil every 5k or less. I'm more worried abut the oil filters I put on my car than the oil.

I generally buy whatever full syn oil that is on sale, run it for 5-6k and then get an OA. I've yet to find an oil that produced a poor result. Sure, some have a little more additive left and some hold their viscosity a bit better, but at the end of the day does it matter to the longevity of the engine? Of course not.

Judging from your post it appears that a person can't be an 'enthusiast' if he or she wants to save money. I'd say a true enthusiast is a person who wants to get the best bang for the buck.

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#3366907 - 05/09/14 04:52 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: CELICA_XX]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 1749
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Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
I'm astounded that so many people say "price" as a factor in choosing oil. I am a member of many different enthusiast forums, and this place takes the cake when it comes to people trying to use the cheapest stuff possible.

Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.


We interpret 'enthusiast' very differently, thats all.
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#3366918 - 05/09/14 05:02 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: CELICA_XX]
Sam2000 Offline


Registered: 03/25/14
Posts: 400
Loc: Nevada
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
I'm astounded that so many people say "price" as a factor in choosing oil. I am a member of many different enthusiast forums, and this place takes the cake when it comes to people trying to use the cheapest stuff possible.

No one from a backpacking club will brag about using a $2.99 backpack on their latest camping trip.

No one from an automotive tire forum gets excited about using a $39 dollar tire from China.

No one from a camping forum is overjoyed with a flash light from the dollar store.

And yet these are all products that will work for a particular task. There are hundreds of other examples like this.




Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.


Well most have realized that oils that meet spec are generally the same.

However, there is the additional factor that there are always deals especially on full synthetic oils. So I have plenty of cheap oil but it's all full synthetic.

And when the price is similar, sure I will choose the product I like, like a semi enthusiast.

I tend to spend money based on the value I will get. So I spent quite a bit of money on professional grade brake fluid caps for the pressure bleeder. Did the same on the jack. These are items that will last a long time which I want to perform well. With some things, quality matters and is worth paying extra for.

For oil, the enthusiast knows that there are not big quality differences so you can focus on price.

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#3366933 - 05/09/14 05:16 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: CELICA_XX]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 9122
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
I'm astounded that so many people say "price" as a factor in choosing oil. I am a member of many different enthusiast forums, and this place takes the cake when it comes to people trying to use the cheapest stuff possible.

No one from a backpacking club will brag about using a $2.99 backpack on their latest camping trip.

No one from an automotive tire forum gets excited about using a $39 dollar tire from China.

No one from a camping forum is overjoyed with a flash light from the dollar store.

And yet these are all products that will work for a particular task. There are hundreds of other examples like this.




Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.


If you could buy a $2.99 backpack that performed as well as one that cost $129.99, wouldn't you?
If you could find a $39.00 tire that worked as well as a $139.00 Michelin, wouldn't you buy it?
On this site, we tend to talk more about performance for cheap than we brag about how much we paid for a name brand at regular price.
I have three cars on FAR oil at the moment, one on leftovers and a sixth, for which I didn't have room in my sig, on an API SL HM I got for less than $1.70/qt.
The one oil I paid real dollars for was the Idemitsu HGMO in the '12 Accord, but at average drain intervals of about 8K per the IOLM, the five dollars per quart cost is quite bearable.
Besides, I really wanted to use this oil in the Accord.
It isn't about how much we spend on oil, rather it's the premium oils we get cheaply.
I'd rather run FAR Ultra than $26.00/jug Ultra, just as I'd rather run FAR G-OIl and Defy rather than paying normal retail for either.
All solid oils bought at a deal.
The good or bad of this is that I have around three hundred quarts of these good oils cheap.
I've used twenty four quarts so far this year and will use another thirty one by the end of the year.
This will leave nearly 250 quarts in the stash.
Needless to say, I have a stopped buying anything not FAR.
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#3366975 - 05/09/14 05:53 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
cheesepuffs Offline


Registered: 09/24/13
Posts: 437
Loc: Connecticut
Like others, I can't attribute my oil choices to just one deciding factor. I'm currently using QSGB for the first time and I love it because it's cheap (less than $14 a jug at Walmart), I trust it (I have faith in SOPUS to produce a quality product), and because my last three oils have now been VWB, PYB, and the QSGB and out of all of them Quaker State runs the quietest by a noticeable degree, especially compared to Valvoline. Some people may not care about that but I like it.
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#3367258 - 05/10/14 02:32 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: CELICA_XX]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11106
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
Sometimes I wonder if this is really an enthusiast forum.

A MagLite is a significantly improved piece of engineering over a dollar store flashlight, and similar, concrete examples abound when it comes to the categories you mentioned. Even the return on investment is an issue. A police officer will likely choose a MagLite before a dollar store special, if only because he'll be replacing the latter countless times. No one's going to scale Everest using a Bratz backpack, either.

For a vehicle with moderate oil recommendations (i.e. the 5w-20 or 5w-30 in SM/GF-4 or better with reasonable OCIs), spending a bunch of money on a boutique synthetic will provide no difference in engine longevity versus QSAD, PYB, Chevron Supreme, Mobil Super conventional, Castrol GTX, VWB, or any other basic ILSAC rated lube.
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2008 Infiniti G37 coupe - Mobil Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, Hastings LF113
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#3367357 - 05/10/14 07:36 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
wjs Offline


Registered: 07/18/13
Posts: 3
Loc: Georgia
I research BITOG and other forums for the experience of others.
I check the oil analysis results of others on this forum plus my own results.
That said, I used Pennzoil Ultra in the Camaro until a cam and other modifications were added to the engine. Engine builder insisted on Royal Purple HPS to protect the cam so that's what's in it now.
From this forum I learned Rotella T-6 should be good for the Jeep and that's in it.
Blackstone Oil Analysis Reports for both vehicles showed Ultra was a great choice for the Camaro and T-6 a great choice for the Jeep.
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#3367396 - 05/10/14 08:40 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 4428
Loc: NH
On my Toyotas I am sticking with tgmo, at least for now, as it has a good rep, I do 10k OCI's and I worry about those long timing chains. On my Jetta I buy the oil online for ease, been doing that for a while. Some day I should do a cost analysis as I do seem to do around six oil changes a year.
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#3367410 - 05/10/14 08:57 AM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
6lbsoft Offline


Registered: 02/02/12
Posts: 90
Loc: Southern California
M1 for when I dont feel like doing an oil change for the good part of the year.

Dino for when i'm low on cash and need to do an oil change.

When I get my next vehicle (hopefully a newer Silverado I will dedicate to synthetic.
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#3367898 - 05/10/14 07:49 PM Re: OIL - Why do you choose what you choose... [Re: wemay]
05LGTLtd Offline


Registered: 03/04/13
Posts: 637
Loc: Va
1) manufacture's spec

2) name brand

3) price

I'll run about any synthetic from sopus or Mobil M1 0-w40. I like castrol 0w30 and 0w40 too. If I can score a oil local for a good deal vs buying at Walmart, I stash it. My metric has become the five quart jug of M1 0w40. I'm not going to order oil on line, unless deal is worth it, which hasn't happened yet.

For some reason, I've decided MS5k is the choice for the lawn mower. I have other oils in the stash which would do as well, but I just bought another change of MS5k 10w30 last trip to Wally.


Edited by 05LGTLtd (05/10/14 07:50 PM)
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