Recent Topics
2014 silverado oil issue
by Jschreffler81
10/22/14 09:14 PM
Ford Duratec 2.0
by pbm
10/22/14 08:47 PM
Improving Vision
by lawman1909
10/22/14 08:19 PM
Made a headlamp harness for the Miata
by Klutch9
10/22/14 08:09 PM
Avast Secure Online / CCleaner question
by 97tbird
10/22/14 07:58 PM
Motul 8100 5w40, 5,500 miles, 2002 WRX (stg 4/18G)
by TedMeyer
10/22/14 07:10 PM
2010 Jettas
by ET16
10/22/14 07:02 PM
Kerosene/Diesel Transmission Flush
by dsmith41
10/22/14 06:33 PM
P215/60R15 need 4 new
by FL-400S
10/22/14 06:06 PM
Canadian Troops should take their Weapons Home
by Falken
10/22/14 06:00 PM
Wolfs Head synthetic?
by wemay
10/22/14 05:40 PM
Fram Ultra - Subaru Forester 9k miles, 10months
by Nate1979
10/22/14 05:39 PM
Newest Members
Jschreffler81, facefulloffuzz, triodak, mrmike, teedoff00
51668 Registered Users
Who's Online
118 registered (147_Grain, -SyN-, 04SE, abycat, 74DartSport, 86cutlass307, 13 invisible), 1704 Guests and 158 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51668 Members
64 Forums
221078 Topics
3494674 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#3227778 - 12/25/13 08:56 PM Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness?
gr8gatzby Offline


Registered: 11/22/05
Posts: 588
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Have used ARX for years now and have only good experiences to share. Love the stuff. Recently though, I joined the ranks of the unemployed and cannot afford the price of admission. Are there competing additive packs that approach ARX effectiveness and quality, but at a lesser price? Thanks.
_________________________
'95 Ford F150 | 4x4 | 5.8 | 13MPG
'96 Volvo 850 Wagon | I5 | 5SP | 24MPG

Top
#3227783 - 12/25/13 09:04 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33778
Loc: New Jersey
MMO, Kreen.

Top
#3227784 - 12/25/13 09:05 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Bluestream Online   content


Registered: 09/13/03
Posts: 3951
Loc: Waterloo, ON
What do you love about it? I have never used any additives for 50 years so I dont get it...
_________________________
2000 Cavalier 2.2 A4
2000 VW Beetle 1.8T M5
2000 Ford Explorer 4.0 4X4
1991 BMW 735iL
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - Thomas Tusser

Top
#3227787 - 12/25/13 09:05 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Ramblejam Online   content


Registered: 11/05/13
Posts: 1009
Loc: Kentucky
Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Are there competing additive packs that approach ARX effectiveness and quality, but at a lesser price? Thanks.


In regards to what you're looking for, I've had great success with Mobil 1 High Mileage.

Top
#3227788 - 12/25/13 09:06 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13524
Loc: Upstate NY
I think a synthetic oil would provide a similar cleaning in a slow manner which is what ARX is all about.
_________________________
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0 - PP & M1
1999 Dodge Ram 2500 w/Cummins - Rotella T6 & M1
Amsoil ATF in both vehicles & Magnefine filter.

Top
#3227801 - 12/25/13 09:23 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Bluestream]
gr8gatzby Offline


Registered: 11/22/05
Posts: 588
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: Bluestream
What do you love about it? I have never used any additives for 50 years so I dont get it...


I started using ARX in 2005 with my purchase of an 88k mi 2000 Volvo XC70. After two treatments, fuel economy returned to EPA rated numbers and this gas engine ceased sounding like a diesel when at idle. The rest of the car fell apart and required $12,000 of warranty work in the first 12 months, but the engine was solid, and I've used ARX on every car since.

I've always walked in to high mileage cars with varied lives of owner maintenance. If I were buying new, and had my hand on regular oil changes from day one, ARX(or any additive) would not benefit the motor.


Edited by gr8gatzby (12/25/13 09:33 PM)
_________________________
'95 Ford F150 | 4x4 | 5.8 | 13MPG
'96 Volvo 850 Wagon | I5 | 5SP | 24MPG

Top
#3227871 - 12/25/13 10:46 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
steveh Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 711
Loc: wisconsin
All additives are very effective. They all do a excellent job of cleaning out your wallet!!

Top
#3227881 - 12/25/13 10:56 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 9365
Loc: Clovis, CA
Oils already have detergents built in. If you start doing 2000 mile OCI's with Maxlife, you'll get the engine clean as a whistle. Shouldn't take more than three OCI's to do it.

Top
#3227884 - 12/25/13 10:58 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
TallPaul Offline


Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 12915
Loc: By Detroit
My oil pan gasket slipped out during an Auto RX treatment. Cost me $200 to get a new gasket installed. Was it the Auto RX or just coincidence? I quit using additives in oil, just Maxlife oil. No need to keep the inside of the engine squeaky clean. Today's oils don't gum up and clog engines like some in the past did.
_________________________
"There is a slight vibration in it that I always attributed to something I can't explain." --Neil Young

Top
#3227902 - 12/26/13 12:00 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
expat Online   content


Registered: 05/12/09
Posts: 3826
Loc: Canada
Unless you have a specific, known, problem (like a stuck ring)
Just do a few short OCI's with a quality oil.

Don't be talked into wasting money on Snake oil, to fix something that isn't broke.

Top
#3227919 - 12/26/13 12:38 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: steveh]
Boczech Offline


Registered: 11/19/05
Posts: 250
Loc: Norcal
Originally Posted By: steveh
All additives are very effective. They all do a excellent job of cleaning out your wallet!!


+1 So true on that statement there. Cheers2


Cheers
B
_________________________
1996 Dodge RAM 2500 5.9l diesel

Top
#3227932 - 12/26/13 01:13 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 26797
Loc: a prison island
You could (and I have) take some Canola, some methanol (eg heet - I've used anhydrous ethanol before), some caustic, and manufacture RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester)...google biodiesel soda bottle...AutoRx patent is lanolin, esterised with various alcohols.

Which will be an ester, with very high solvency....in fact changing to high levels of biodiesel in an older fuel system can stir up all sorts of junk.

I've added it to engines for the last 1,000km of an oil change, and had remarkably similar results to my runs of AutoRx...pretty much nothing noticeable.

Oil would need to be thick enough to handle the thinner solvent.

Top
#3228011 - 12/26/13 06:24 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Merkava_4]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 21314
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Oils already have detergents built in. If you start doing 2000 mile OCI's with Maxlife, you'll get the engine clean as a whistle. Shouldn't take more than three OCI's to do it.


I'd love to see some before and after pics to back that statement up, or a link to them.
_________________________
GOD Bless our Troops


Top
#3228173 - 12/26/13 10:53 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: demarpaint]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15128
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Oils already have detergents built in. If you start doing 2000 mile OCI's with Maxlife, you'll get the engine clean as a whistle. Shouldn't take more than three OCI's to do it.


I'd love to see some before and after pics to back that statement up, or a link to them.


While your at it get him to back up his other assertion that thicker oil closes the ring gaps!
_________________________
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
J. William Fulbright
Best ET-12.79 @ 111 mph
4340 pounds, Street tires
Just like we go to Publix

Top
#3228299 - 12/26/13 01:01 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 2657
Loc: Upper Midwest
Why have you used it for years? What are you doing to your engine to require its use? Assuming it does anything in the first place, of course.

Glad you love it as you are making the sellers happy too. Just explain why you need it so much.

Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Have used ARX for years now and have only good experiences to share. Love the stuff. Recently though, I joined the ranks of the unemployed and cannot afford the price of admission. Are there competing additive packs that approach ARX effectiveness and quality, but at a lesser price? Thanks.
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 189K
1996 Honda Accord, 203K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 306K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 224K

Top
#3228342 - 12/26/13 02:09 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: kschachn]
SteveSRT8 Offline


Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 15128
Loc: Sunny Florida
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Why have you used it for years? What are you doing to your engine to require its use? Assuming it does anything in the first place, of course.

Glad you love it as you are making the sellers happy too. Just explain why you need it so much.

Originally Posted By: gr8gatzby
Have used ARX for years now and have only good experiences to share. Love the stuff. Recently though, I joined the ranks of the unemployed and cannot afford the price of admission. Are there competing additive packs that approach ARX effectiveness and quality, but at a lesser price? Thanks.


This really is an EXCELLENT question.
_________________________
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
J. William Fulbright
Best ET-12.79 @ 111 mph
4340 pounds, Street tires
Just like we go to Publix

Top
#3228396 - 12/26/13 03:04 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Shannow]
Clevy Offline


Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 7364
Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Shannow
You could (and I have) take some Canola, some methanol (eg heet - I've used anhydrous ethanol before), some caustic, and manufacture RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester)...google biodiesel soda bottle...AutoRx patent is lanolin, esterised with various alcohols.

Which will be an ester, with very high solvency....in fact changing to high levels of biodiesel in an older fuel system can stir up all sorts of junk.

I've added it to engines for the last 1,000km of an oil change, and had remarkably similar results to my runs of AutoRx...pretty much nothing noticeable.

Oil would need to be thick enough to handle the thinner solvent.



There you go op. Make your own
_________________________
2006 Charger RT
Miles x 2 per oil filter

Top
#3228865 - 12/27/13 03:45 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
ac_tc Offline


Registered: 05/06/08
Posts: 531
Loc: sweden
a quart of appropriate redline...here you have all the
esters you need.
My blend: 80-100% HDEO and the rest is redline xw-y (havent found 0w-20 yet, but when i do id use it to thin the hdeo down a bit)
_________________________
-98 Dodge Durango 5.9 4*4 HDEO 10w- 40 ci4
-04 PT Cruser GT 10w- 40 HDEO ci4
-Everything else HDEO 10w- 40 ci4/STOU 10w-30/THF

Top
#3229863 - 12/28/13 09:06 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Donald]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 9951
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Originally Posted By: Donald
I think a synthetic oil would provide a similar cleaning in a slow manner which is what ARX is all about.


+1 Some of the modern oils like PU, PP and some Mobil 1 have excellent cleaning abilities.
I had an engine apart a few months ago that had lots of varnish and some buildup, the Mobil 1 did a great job. The oil literally had a red tint from the varnish.
It does take time though and is not dependent so much on miles driven from what i saw.
_________________________
ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.

Top
#3229949 - 12/28/13 11:08 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 4609
Loc: Mahzurrah!
The new Castrol gold bottle apparently has some bio-esters in it and would be an interesting candidate for this as well.
_________________________
2004 Jeep GC WJ 4.0 @ 122k Pennzoil HM 10w30 w/MoS2
Napa Silver 31515
KIA Sedona 40k, Chevy Lumina 173k, Chrysler Sebring 171k.

Top
#3235833 - 01/03/14 12:02 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
gr8gatzby Offline


Registered: 11/22/05
Posts: 588
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Thoughts on LC20?
_________________________
'95 Ford F150 | 4x4 | 5.8 | 13MPG
'96 Volvo 850 Wagon | I5 | 5SP | 24MPG

Top
#3235860 - 01/03/14 12:13 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
ChrisD46 Offline


Registered: 09/10/10
Posts: 1204
Loc: GA.
What about MMO or Seafoam - both avilable locally as well ?

Top
#3235949 - 01/03/14 01:08 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14642
Loc: Midwest
LC20 will remove carbon over time.

While it does clean carbon, it does not affect seal swell.
_________________________
My bank has a service where they text me my balance every afternoon. I just dont think they should add LOL to the end. smile

Top
#3236739 - 01/04/14 04:32 AM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: Shannow]
sprintman Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11006
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Originally Posted By: Shannow
You could (and I have) take some Canola, some methanol (eg heet - I've used anhydrous ethanol before), some caustic, and manufacture RME (Rapeseed Methyl Ester)...google biodiesel soda bottle...AutoRx patent is lanolin, esterised with various alcohols.

Which will be an ester, with very high solvency....in fact changing to high levels of biodiesel in an older fuel system can stir up all sorts of junk.

I've added it to engines for the last 1,000km of an oil change, and had remarkably similar results to my runs of AutoRx...pretty much nothing noticeable.

Oil would need to be thick enough to handle the thinner solvent.


I always go up a grade if using Arx (2 - 2 1/2 bottles), and run it 8-10,000 kms. 1,000 kms is pointless imo.

Top
#3237209 - 01/04/14 01:28 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: steveh]
Ken2 Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6202
Loc: Washington St.
Originally Posted By: steveh
All additives are very effective. They all do a excellent job of cleaning out your wallet!!
But, the car runs faster due to your lighter wallet.

If the engine has a specific problem, use the additive that is designed for that problem. Otherwise, save your money and just use any top brand oil.
_________________________
Every gun that is made, every warship launched..a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Gen. Eisenhower


Top
#3238728 - 01/05/14 08:17 PM Re: Additive that is closest to ARX in effectiveness? [Re: gr8gatzby]
andyd Online   content


Registered: 09/25/04
Posts: 3799
Loc: Marshfield , MA
Heh heh I add a pint of MMO to the oil to thin it for the winter. Any cleaning it does is a bonus. And I spilt a little so I got a good whiff of wintergreen. 6 bux wont break the budget and a pint sure wont kill anything. Happy New Year!
_________________________
2 1988 BMW 528e 20w50 dino, STP filter

1994 Ranger ,600$ Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >