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#2948029 - 03/22/13 05:11 PM Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic
Darren270 Offline


Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 215
Loc: Colorado
A friend of mine gave me 6 quarts of this stuff in 10W-30 (said he didn't need it. Didn't ask him why). Anyway, I'm about due for an oil change on my 97 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9L V8 and I considered using this stuff rather than just letting it go to waste. I know its SL rated with a high zinc content and some people fear it will "ruin" their catalytic converters. I'm not worried about that. I was just curious what the add pack is like. Obviously this isn't made to clean up sludge as some oils are marketed, but is the add pack more akin to something like VWB? What kind of OCI would be appropriate for this oil? I asked on another forum and someone mentioned not going past 1000 miles which seems a little silly.


Edited by Darren270 (03/22/13 05:22 PM)
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#2948033 - 03/22/13 05:15 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
oldhp Offline


Registered: 06/28/12
Posts: 878
Loc: Southern Illinois
What weight? I don't think I would run it straight, but you could use 1qt per oil change and not hurt anything.
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#2948039 - 03/22/13 05:20 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
Darren270 Offline


Registered: 10/30/12
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Loc: Colorado
Quote:
What weight? I don't think I would run it straight, but you could use 1qt per oil change and not hurt anything.


Oops! I'm sorry. I dont know how I forgot to mention that. It's 10W-30.
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#2948056 - 03/22/13 05:42 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 2020
Loc: Oswego, IL
It's SynPower with more zinc and a blue dye. Other than that, it's identical. There have been several UOAs with it.
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#2948063 - 03/22/13 05:51 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: tinmanSC]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
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Loc: Oswego, IL
Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
It's SynPower with more zinc and a blue dye. Other than that, it's identical. There have been several UOAs with it.

I know, replying to my own post, faux pas.

Seems Valvoline's site lists the specs as different. Regular 10w-30 synpower is a bit thinner and has a higher VI than VR1. But it is quite similar.
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#2948069 - 03/22/13 05:55 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I wouldn't run it in the winter but in the summer it would be okay for a for a normal OCI.
Or you could use it blended with some SynPower 5W-30. This way you're just boosting the ZDDP level somewhat.
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#2948076 - 03/22/13 06:05 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
Lead Shoes Offline


Registered: 03/03/10
Posts: 2390
Loc: Mn
Dump it all in, a lot of people run 10w30 in their trucks all winter and never complain about them dying early from cold start wear, it's warming up outside anyway.

Maybe try to find a friend with a high performance vehicle and have him buy you 6qts of something you feel comfortable using as a trade.


Edited by Brenden (03/22/13 06:13 PM)
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#2948215 - 03/22/13 08:29 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
ABerns Offline


Registered: 08/11/10
Posts: 418
Loc: Iowa
Some racing oils don't have the detergents and additives needed for long life, right? They are meant to be run in race engines for a few races and then dumped?

That being said, I don't think VR1 is one of those oils...

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#2948316 - 03/22/13 09:39 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
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Loc: OH
This oil really is just Synpower dyed a very pretty shade of blue with a little extra ZDDP, making it an API SL oil.
Cats were in use long before API SL, so I wouldn't fear any harm.
The six quarts may have come from the FAR offer Valvoline had on this oil a couple of springs ago.
I took advantage of it and ran one 5K change of this oil in the Forester and used the remaining quart as top up in the BMW.
This is a perfectly serviceable oil for free.
Use it.
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#2948317 - 03/22/13 09:39 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
BillyTheKid Offline


Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 420
Loc: ny
I wold run it without thinking twice. Its funny anyone would worry about running a 10-30 in the winter unless it being in the frozen tundra.

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#2948345 - 03/22/13 10:04 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11756
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Just run it as it is. VR1 Synthetic is not a low detergent racing oil, so 1000 miles would be silly. As you pointed out, it's SL, which was the standard in place at the time for your vehicle. If it were me, I'd use it as is without hesitation.

As Caterham points out, a 5w-30 is preferable in the winter, but it is spring (I think it is, anyhow), so go for it.
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#2948984 - 03/23/13 03:54 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
Darren270 Offline


Registered: 10/30/12
Posts: 215
Loc: Colorado
Thanks for the replies everyone. I decided to just use it all on my next oil change in about 400 miles. I normally run 10W-30 in the winter so that isn't a problem. It gets cold here, but seldom drops to single digits and rarely drops below freezing.

Btw, that "sapphire blue" color sure is neat looking! grin
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#2949023 - 03/23/13 04:51 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
285south Offline


Registered: 01/18/13
Posts: 421
Loc: usa
The older generation (1998) of Valvoline Ricing Oil was not "blue." Use it for 5,000, my car did and I couldn't tell the difference than the white bottles.

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#3394445 - 06/10/14 11:07 PM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: Darren270]
gtmaster303 Offline


Registered: 06/02/14
Posts: 85
Loc: NJ, USA
Reviving this thread because I have a case of it sitting around from the rebate deal a while back.
After all my researching, it's all mixed answers...
I called Valvoline and asked them if I can use it in my Cayenne and they said no. It will destroy the catalytic converters. Is this true?

Should I run it straight, blended with other stuff or not at all?
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#3394495 - 06/11/14 02:10 AM Re: Valvoline VR1 Racing Synthetic [Re: gtmaster303]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: gtmaster303
I called Valvoline and asked them if I can use it in my Cayenne and they said no. It will destroy the catalytic converters. Is this true?

One fill of VR1 isn't going to destroy anyone's cats, no matter how much oil the thing burns. I'd avoid it for the Cayenne because it's not an approved lube or even a reasonable facsimile thereof.
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