I been hearing so much good about this product chevron techron fuel system cleaner and was wondering should i put it in my tank or its not worth it? I have a 1995 buick century 3.1 v6 with 86k miles and it takes regular unleaded but i been putting bp silver 89 in it since i think its better then running 87. They say shell is better then bp since its top tier what do u guys think?
Fuel system cleaner,bp vs shell?
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last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
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Find it on sale or at Sams Club and use it every oil change or two. Not real critical, just once and awhile.
Thread jack, with somewhat relevance:
If i use high quality fuels only (BP, Shell, Sunoco, ect.) would i ever need to use fuel injector cleaner?
If i use high quality fuels only (BP, Shell, Sunoco, ect.) would i ever need to use fuel injector cleaner?
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
i been putting bp silver 89 in it since i think its better then running 87.
not necessarily. I also buy BP fuel only, but where im at, all the 89 is watered down with 10% ethanol, so needless to say, my cars get better MPG with 87. (although i run 91 in my grand prix, since thats what the retuned PCM calls for)
i been putting bp silver 89 in it since i think its better then running 87.
not necessarily. I also buy BP fuel only, but where im at, all the 89 is watered down with 10% ethanol, so needless to say, my cars get better MPG with 87. (although i run 91 in my grand prix, since thats what the retuned PCM calls for)
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Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Your fine use it. Im assuming your using it because its around $0.10/gal cheaper than regular due to E10. 89 will work just fine in your engine.
If your using BP then no you should not have to use it on a regular basis. Once in a while maintenance dose wont hurt though.
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Your fine use it. Im assuming your using it because its around $0.10/gal cheaper than regular due to E10. 89 will work just fine in your engine.
If your using BP then no you should not have to use it on a regular basis. Once in a while maintenance dose wont hurt though.
Originally Posted By: sasha
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
well it says in the manual use regular unleaded rated at 87 octane or higher so 89 is fine im sure i think putting 93 would be pushing it.
no actually out here in chicago all bp gas contains 10% ethanol and mid grade cost more then regular i just run a higher octane since they say its better.
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: sasha
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
Guess my max did not like the new shell formula w/ nitrogen or was it hydrogen mix? . A couple of my pals also noted less distance on full tank with shell. and my kia hates wawa fuel. then again one tank of gas is not enough for the ecu to adjust. The sonoco is only 1 mile away from me plus it has 100 octane racing fuel. dying to try it.
Originally Posted By: sasha
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
Guess my max did not like the new shell formula w/ nitrogen or was it hydrogen mix? . A couple of my pals also noted less distance on full tank with shell. and my kia hates wawa fuel. then again one tank of gas is not enough for the ecu to adjust. The sonoco is only 1 mile away from me plus it has 100 octane racing fuel. dying to try it.
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
I have actually heard that the belief that higher octane gasoline having "more detergents" is a lie. (I heard each octane grade has the same amount of detergents, and only the octane differs. Meaning, 87 has the same "detergent cleaning ability" as 93.." Though, it has been argued that higher octane has other benefits. I have also heard, but not been able to make sense of, reports that a lot of cars get better mileage on premium, and some less mileage on premium. Plus grade gets left out of those observations, it seems.)
As to "mid-grade when car requires regular".. Some cars, like my Volvo, say that regular (87) is OK in the manual.. but, when 89 or 92/93 gets in them, they "feel" better. In my car's case, it is because there is a small turbo in it. I have settled on 89.. I can't really tell a difference between 89 and 93, so 89 is fine.. though, if Premium (93) is 6 cents more, like it is in Dorchester, I get that. However.. Normal station, with 10/12/14 cent price spread?.. 89.
Maybe OP likes the way the car runs on the "better" (higher octane) gasoline more.
Same way people put 93 in Ford Escorts, to giv the 1.9L engine a "treat" on its 8.5:1 compression ratio...
If anyone knows differently about gas, please chime in? Just sharing what I seem to have picked up, from many many sources, in my motoring years, in many places.
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
I have actually heard that the belief that higher octane gasoline having "more detergents" is a lie. (I heard each octane grade has the same amount of detergents, and only the octane differs. Meaning, 87 has the same "detergent cleaning ability" as 93.." Though, it has been argued that higher octane has other benefits. I have also heard, but not been able to make sense of, reports that a lot of cars get better mileage on premium, and some less mileage on premium. Plus grade gets left out of those observations, it seems.)
As to "mid-grade when car requires regular".. Some cars, like my Volvo, say that regular (87) is OK in the manual.. but, when 89 or 92/93 gets in them, they "feel" better. In my car's case, it is because there is a small turbo in it. I have settled on 89.. I can't really tell a difference between 89 and 93, so 89 is fine.. though, if Premium (93) is 6 cents more, like it is in Dorchester, I get that. However.. Normal station, with 10/12/14 cent price spread?.. 89.
Maybe OP likes the way the car runs on the "better" (higher octane) gasoline more.
Same way people put 93 in Ford Escorts, to giv the 1.9L engine a "treat" on its 8.5:1 compression ratio...
If anyone knows differently about gas, please chime in? Just sharing what I seem to have picked up, from many many sources, in my motoring years, in many places.
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
well it says in the manual use regular unleaded rated at 87 octane or higher so 89 is fine im sure i think putting 93 would be pushing it.
You got a turbo in that TSi?
FTR: I agree with you. I put 89 OR 93 in the Volvo.. I know a station where 93 is $3.47 a gallon (and it isn't too too far away.) Down the street.. 87 costs the same. Then, at Stop and Shop (Gas is gas is gas, I use Redline SI-1,) Regular is $3.39 a gallon, Plus is $3.49, Premium, $3.59.. and I have enough Stop and Shop reward points to get 50 CENTS OFF A GALLON! So.. I would choose 89 there.
well it says in the manual use regular unleaded rated at 87 octane or higher so 89 is fine im sure i think putting 93 would be pushing it.
You got a turbo in that TSi?
FTR: I agree with you. I put 89 OR 93 in the Volvo.. I know a station where 93 is $3.47 a gallon (and it isn't too too far away.) Down the street.. 87 costs the same. Then, at Stop and Shop (Gas is gas is gas, I use Redline SI-1,) Regular is $3.39 a gallon, Plus is $3.49, Premium, $3.59.. and I have enough Stop and Shop reward points to get 50 CENTS OFF A GALLON! So.. I would choose 89 there.
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Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
I have actually heard that the belief that higher octane gasoline having "more detergents" is a lie. (I heard each octane grade has the same amount of detergents, and only the octane differs. Meaning, 87 has the same "detergent cleaning ability" as 93.." Though, it has been argued that higher octane has other benefits. I have also heard, but not been able to make sense of, reports that a lot of cars get better mileage on premium, and some less mileage on premium. Plus grade gets left out of those observations, it seems.)
As to "mid-grade when car requires regular".. Some cars, like my Volvo, say that regular (87) is OK in the manual.. but, when 89 or 92/93 gets in them, they "feel" better. In my car's case, it is because there is a small turbo in it. I have settled on 89.. I can't really tell a difference between 89 and 93, so 89 is fine.. though, if Premium (93) is 6 cents more, like it is in Dorchester, I get that. However.. Normal station, with 10/12/14 cent price spread?.. 89.
Maybe OP likes the way the car runs on the "better" (higher octane) gasoline more.
Same way people put 93 in Ford Escorts, to giv the 1.9L engine a "treat" on its 8.5:1 compression ratio...
If anyone knows differently about gas, please chime in? Just sharing what I seem to have picked up, from many many sources, in my motoring years, in many places.
All fuels require a certain amount of detergents to be sold in the US. Other fuels called TOP TIER fuels require more detergents, to be considered Top Tier. Also companies can add their own addpacks such as BP Invigorate Amaco, or Shell with nitrogen.
Originally Posted By: randomhero439
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
thats what im saying do i need to add a fuel additive if i use bp silver grade gasoline and my car takes regular unleaded?
Why are you using mid-grade when the car requires regular? Sure there are more detergents but if the car cannot adapt the spark timing to that octane then its worst off.
I have actually heard that the belief that higher octane gasoline having "more detergents" is a lie. (I heard each octane grade has the same amount of detergents, and only the octane differs. Meaning, 87 has the same "detergent cleaning ability" as 93.." Though, it has been argued that higher octane has other benefits. I have also heard, but not been able to make sense of, reports that a lot of cars get better mileage on premium, and some less mileage on premium. Plus grade gets left out of those observations, it seems.)
As to "mid-grade when car requires regular".. Some cars, like my Volvo, say that regular (87) is OK in the manual.. but, when 89 or 92/93 gets in them, they "feel" better. In my car's case, it is because there is a small turbo in it. I have settled on 89.. I can't really tell a difference between 89 and 93, so 89 is fine.. though, if Premium (93) is 6 cents more, like it is in Dorchester, I get that. However.. Normal station, with 10/12/14 cent price spread?.. 89.
Maybe OP likes the way the car runs on the "better" (higher octane) gasoline more.
Same way people put 93 in Ford Escorts, to giv the 1.9L engine a "treat" on its 8.5:1 compression ratio...
If anyone knows differently about gas, please chime in? Just sharing what I seem to have picked up, from many many sources, in my motoring years, in many places.
All fuels require a certain amount of detergents to be sold in the US. Other fuels called TOP TIER fuels require more detergents, to be considered Top Tier. Also companies can add their own addpacks such as BP Invigorate Amaco, or Shell with nitrogen.
Originally Posted By: sasha
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: sasha
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
Guess my max did not like the new shell formula w/ nitrogen or was it hydrogen mix? . A couple of my pals also noted less distance on full tank with shell. and my kia hates wawa fuel. then again one tank of gas is not enough for the ecu to adjust. The sonoco is only 1 mile away from me plus it has 100 octane racing fuel. dying to try it.
100 octane in what ? If put in ANY basic street car will do NOTHING for performance ,,,High octane is for engines with high compression ,,,it's funny when people think higher the octane the faster their car will go,,,11 to 1 or higher compression is what that fuel is for
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: sasha
last time i used shell gas station my mpg dropped. im sticking with sonoco.
the chevron with techron is good stuff.
Funny you say that. I actually consistently get a big (2-3mpg) drop in efficiency every time I use BP. Whether the driving is in town or on the highway, if BP is in the tank I'll end up with less efficiency.
Never had any definitive increase or decrease with other brands.
Guess my max did not like the new shell formula w/ nitrogen or was it hydrogen mix? . A couple of my pals also noted less distance on full tank with shell. and my kia hates wawa fuel. then again one tank of gas is not enough for the ecu to adjust. The sonoco is only 1 mile away from me plus it has 100 octane racing fuel. dying to try it.
100 octane in what ? If put in ANY basic street car will do NOTHING for performance ,,,High octane is for engines with high compression ,,,it's funny when people think higher the octane the faster their car will go,,,11 to 1 or higher compression is what that fuel is for
Originally Posted By: boostedtsiawd
well it says in the manual use regular unleaded rated at 87 octane or higher so 89 is fine im sure i think putting 93 would be pushing it.
I used to have a '94 Chevy Corsica with the same engine you have and I used 87 octane in it with no problems. I mostly agree with those who say that all three octane grades (of certain brands) have the same amount of detergent. However, there could be a few exceptions. I have seen Shell advertise that their V-Power (93) has five times the required amount of detergents versus EPA standards and I'm pretty sure that is more than their 87 and 89 grades.
But based on my experience, I would think that anything more than 87 for your car would be a waste for you unless you experience a good amount of knocking/pinging. I also use the Techron every six months to a year as a maintenance treatment on my Mercury, so I think that's a good idea for your Buick. I also think that there is hardly any difference between BP and Shell, although I am more brand loyal to Shell.
well it says in the manual use regular unleaded rated at 87 octane or higher so 89 is fine im sure i think putting 93 would be pushing it.
I used to have a '94 Chevy Corsica with the same engine you have and I used 87 octane in it with no problems. I mostly agree with those who say that all three octane grades (of certain brands) have the same amount of detergent. However, there could be a few exceptions. I have seen Shell advertise that their V-Power (93) has five times the required amount of detergents versus EPA standards and I'm pretty sure that is more than their 87 and 89 grades.
But based on my experience, I would think that anything more than 87 for your car would be a waste for you unless you experience a good amount of knocking/pinging. I also use the Techron every six months to a year as a maintenance treatment on my Mercury, so I think that's a good idea for your Buick. I also think that there is hardly any difference between BP and Shell, although I am more brand loyal to Shell.
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interesting read, how valid it is - no idea
http://www.standard.net/topics/business/...ces-gas-quality
http://www.standard.net/topics/business/...ces-gas-quality
So should i add techron chevron fuel system cleaner since im already putting 89 octane when my call is fine on 87?
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