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#2674097 - 07/04/12 09:42 PM Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted
wwillson Offline

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We sent the questions to Castrol in two batches. The first answers have been returned and posted here:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/castrol-edge-qa/

Thanks to Castrol for turning the first set of answers around so quickly.

Wayne

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#2674105 - 07/04/12 09:53 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Thanks.

Disappointed to see that all of our HT/HS questions went unanswered. All other oil manufacturers don't mind sharing this data. Why is it such a secret at BP?
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#2674175 - 07/04/12 11:16 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
friendly_jacek Offline


Registered: 05/04/03
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Loc: southeast US
Wayne,
Thanks for doing this, but i have to say the questions were answered by marketing people with no knowlwdge about oils.
I didn't learn anything new.
I suspect the switch from Syntec to Edge is going to bite them.

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#2674178 - 07/04/12 11:20 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Since1941 Offline


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I agree, this answer session did not provide any new information. Thanks Wayne for setting this up though!
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#2674188 - 07/04/12 11:32 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
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Years back I ask questions to Castrol about Castrol Syntec when it first hit the market. How come so cheap for a real synthetic and such. Something felt fishy about the price and saying it was a synthetic etc. . The Castrol folks were dicks back then. I stopped using their products over their attitude and replies. Then I did find out SYNTEC was not really a REAL synthetic. It was by nomenclature only. I felt lied to and deceived. That must have been or around 1993. Never used a Castrol prduct again. I won't use BP products or fuel for other reasons.
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#2674289 - 07/05/12 07:12 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
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Do they know the difference between green and gold GC? Or maybe they didn't understand the question. shrug

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#2674389 - 07/05/12 09:08 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Garak Offline


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Well, a lot of the answers weren't as detailed as we were hoping for, and some seemed rather unrelated to the question at hand. Others, however, were very well answered.

My specific question was clearly and concisely answered.
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#2674622 - 07/05/12 12:40 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: hounddog]
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8763
Loc: SC
Originally Posted By: hounddog
Years back I ask questions to Castrol about Castrol Syntec when it first hit the market. How come so cheap for a real synthetic and such. Something felt fishy about the price and saying it was a synthetic etc. . The Castrol folks were dicks back then. I stopped using their products over their attitude and replies. Then I did find out SYNTEC was not really a REAL synthetic. It was by nomenclature only. I felt lied to and deceived. That must have been or around 1993. Never used a Castrol prduct again. I won't use BP products or fuel for other reasons.


When Syntec was first introduced it was a full PAO-based synthetic. After it had been on the market 2 or 3 years they switched to Group III base oil.
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#2675494 - 07/06/12 08:37 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
virginoil Offline


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Posts: 890
Loc: western australia
I trust my question will be answered in the next set of answers.


Edited by virginoil (07/06/12 08:41 AM)

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#2679387 - 07/09/12 09:13 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: friendly_jacek]
river_rat Offline


Registered: 04/13/09
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Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Wayne,
Thanks for doing this, but i have to say the questions were answered by marketing people with no knowlwdge about oils.
I didn't learn anything new.

Yup.

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#2688074 - 07/18/12 06:40 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
BMWTurboDzl Offline


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When did A3 = hths 2.9?
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#2697022 - 07/27/12 11:50 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
montero1 Offline


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So, is the "Syntec," or the "w/Titanium" the better oil?
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#2697048 - 07/27/12 12:07 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
tstep Offline


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Posts: 288
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I don't know what you could draw from it, but everytime I see a sale it seems like "w/ titanitum" gets a $2 premium.

IIRC, when I had looked at the data sheets, it was my impression Syntec had a more impressive scorecard. Again, if that means anything.

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#2702855 - 08/02/12 01:20 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Gwhaley262 Offline


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Loc: Philadelphia, Pa.
Its been 23 days since the first answers were posted. Will get the rest? Even if they don't tell us much.
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#2755305 - 09/26/12 01:46 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Quattro Pete Offline


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Giving this thread a bump as it appears some of the responses on the Q&A page were updated as of 9/21.
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#2755583 - 09/26/12 07:01 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
wwillson Offline

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All,

We asked Castrol to 'push the limits' on some of their answers, so they did. You can see their updated responses here in the Q&A:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/castrol-edge-qa/

Thanks to Castrol for listening to us and responding.

Wayne

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#2757056 - 09/28/12 11:06 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
Brit33 Offline


Registered: 06/13/12
Posts: 335
Loc: Uruguay
Could Castrol Edge Syntec be added to Castrol TWS?

Would like to experiment with lowering with viscosity just a little down to a 55 or so.

I have Castrol TWS 10w60.
Castrol Edge here only come in 5w40 no more.

I wonder how the TWS and Edge would mix?

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#2773613 - 10/15/12 05:49 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
BlueOvalFitter Offline


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Loc: Cajun Country, La.
While in WM today I was reading the backs of Castrol Edge Syntec and Edge Syntec Titanium.None of them had "Made In Germany" on them. shrug
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#2773993 - 10/16/12 05:45 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
skyship Offline


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Posts: 2071
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Good grief!
Only use German oil in German engines is the golden rule in Germany. I might be in Germany, but when I buy parts I always look for a made in Germany label, even though I drive a Volvo with a Renault block. If it says made in the USA it will be too expensive and if it says made in France, it means some chap in China has copied the label!

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
While in WM today I was reading the backs of Castrol Edge Syntec and Edge Syntec Titanium.None of them had "Made In Germany" on them. shrug

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#2773995 - 10/16/12 05:47 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: skyship]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4180
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: skyship
Good grief!
Only use German oil in German engines is the golden rule in Germany. I might be in Germany, but when I buy parts I always look for a made in Germany label, even though I drive a Volvo with a Renault block. If it says made in the USA it will be too expensive and if it says made in France, it means some chap in China has copied the label!

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
While in WM today I was reading the backs of Castrol Edge Syntec and Edge Syntec Titanium.None of them had "Made In Germany" on them. shrug


The only edge in the US that will be made in Germany is GC 0w-30 which is harder to find and you won't find it at Walmart. Oriellys and advance auto parts carries it.
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#2837070 - 12/16/12 04:22 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: volk06]
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I stocked up on GC a few years back at Autozone when it was SL rated.

Now that GC has been rebadged "Edge" it still has a SL rating from what I saw at Autozone recently. So is Edge GC still a Holy Grail oil here on bitog.com like it used to be be 3-4 years ago.....?
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#2837641 - 12/17/12 06:59 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Registered: 06/12/12
Posts: 786
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Thanks.

Disappointed to see that all of our HT/HS questions went unanswered. All other oil manufacturers don't mind sharing this data. Why is it such a secret at BP?


Interesting. HTHS is available for the Edge w/ Titanium FST range we get here. None are lower than 3.6 though.

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#2852810 - 12/30/12 05:33 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: Crusader]
Torrid Offline


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Posts: 403
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
Originally Posted By: Crusader
I stocked up on GC a few years back at Autozone when it was SL rated.

Now that GC has been rebadged "Edge" it still has a SL rating from what I saw at Autozone recently. So is Edge GC still a Holy Grail oil here on bitog.com like it used to be be 3-4 years ago.....?


Not sure. I picked up some yesterday at Autozone and changed the oil today in my GTO. I haven't run it in a couple of years so I decided to give it another try. I finally blew through my Mobil 1 supply.

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#2853304 - 12/31/12 07:18 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
tc1446 Offline


Registered: 12/10/10
Posts: 375
Loc: NC
In AZ yesterday looking at the two Edge products trying to figure the diff and why Titanium cost $2 more and manager likened them to M1 and M1 Extended. He further stated that at a recent seminar he attended with "Castrol people" they stated that one was a 10K oil and other 15K. Although I didn't buy either he offered me either K&N or M1 filters instead of Bosch if I preferred. Sale is on thru Jan so I may go back and get a couple jugs.
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#2853873 - 12/31/12 04:15 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
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Posts: 2511
Loc: South Carolina
When Edge gold bottle first showed up in stores here it was not the Titanium stuff they market now, but it did say on the bottle it could be used up to 15k miles for normal or non-severe service. I think it was Castrol's answer to Mobil 1 EP line of oils. Long ago they got rid of the 15k mile limit from the bottle for unknown reason. I cashed in on some rebates and got some of that original Edge for $2 or 3/qt. Never bought any more afterwards though. I have to get Castrol pretty cheap to use it in anything I own or service. I do keep some GC on hand though.


Edited by bmwtechguy (12/31/12 04:17 PM)

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#2876960 - 01/19/13 08:11 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: tc1446]
GT Mike Offline


Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 752
Loc: Oshkosh, WI
Originally Posted By: tc1446
...he offered me either K&N or M1 filters instead of Bosch if I preferred.
Nothing to be gained... All three are made by Champion Labratories, and most likely have the same "guts" in them. Even their cheaper STP line would be just as good of a filter.
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#2878191 - 01/20/13 07:19 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: GT Mike]
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"Champion Labs",,, that rings a bell.
That's who makes the filters that my local Suzuki dealers used. They seemed to be good enough for the 3k oil changes that I adhere to. But I had no idea that they make filters for all those other companies. Cool!

But as for Castrol motor oil, , that's all I've used in any of my cars for the past 12+ years.
It has served me well. Dino=YES, Synth=NO.

Cheers Mates!
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#2900142 - 02/09/13 04:52 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
skyship Offline


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Just written to Castrol to find out what the difference is between the add packs of normal Edge 5/40 and Turbo Diesel Edge 5/40. The base stock looks the same, but for some odd reason Volvo and Castrol say use the normal one in my TDI. It might be related to the different Zinc levels, as the Diesel Edge is DPF approved, but that's only a guess.
The new Diesel version is much cheaper than the old 5/40 where I am for some odd reason and is even cheaper than LM Synthoil and M1 0/40.

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#2902296 - 02/11/13 07:09 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: skyship]
skyship Offline


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Originally Posted By: skyship
Just written to Castrol to find out what the difference is between the add packs of normal Edge 5/40 and Turbo Diesel Edge 5/40. The base stock looks the same, but for some odd reason Volvo and Castrol say use the normal one in my TDI. It might be related to the different Zinc levels, as the Diesel Edge is DPF approved, but that's only a guess.
The new Diesel version is much cheaper than the old 5/40 where I am for some odd reason and is even cheaper than LM Synthoil and M1 0/40.


Just got the reply from Castrol and it is good news:

Dear Mr --
Thank you for your email
Absolutely no problem using the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40 where the EDGE 5W-40 is recommended they are both compatible
Kind regards
Andy Griffin
Automotive Lubricants - UK & Ireland
Lubricants - Advanced Technical Support


So next but one UOA results will be the Brits vs the Germans, with the Liqui Moly Synthoil High Tech team against the best diesel team from Castrol. Volvo think the Castrol team will Edge out the LM one, but I have already rigged the result slightly against the Castrol boys by planning to change my dirty air filter.
Note: Castrol Edge TD is cheaper than the normal Edge and is on special from Fleabay.

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#2961344 - 04/03/13 05:07 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: montero1]
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Originally Posted By: montero1
So, is the "Syntec," or the "w/Titanium" the better oil?


Any idea which is the better product?
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#3144784 - 10/04/13 10:31 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
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I wish Castro Egde comes with 0-20W.

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#3144803 - 10/04/13 10:48 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: Mit]
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#3165086 - 10/23/13 02:42 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: supercity]
drew2 Offline


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Posts: 4
Loc: NSW, Australia
hi all,
Does anybody know if the Australian castrol edge titanium 5w30 is the same product as the USA's version?
I presume that the australian one is is manufactured locally and therefore suspect quality and specs maybe different.
Thanks, drew

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#3165313 - 10/23/13 05:45 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: drew2]
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Originally Posted By: drew2
hi all,
Does anybody know if the Australian castrol edge titanium 5w30 is the same product as the USA's version?
I presume that the australian one is is manufactured locally and therefore suspect quality and specs maybe different.
Thanks, drew


Welcome!

It's not the same, it's also not the same as what is sold in Europe. I would not be so cynical, its a good lube without the "environmental" whoohaa attached. It will say on the can where it is manufactured.

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#3167714 - 10/25/13 05:43 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: supercity]
drew2 Offline


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Posts: 4
Loc: NSW, Australia
Thanks for your reply. I've been using the castrol edge titanium 5w30 in both my toyota 4.7L V8 landcruiser and toyota1.3L echo. Both vehicle books recommend 10w30, with 5w30 for cooler weather. I hope that the castrol edge titanium 5w30 will be ok for the australian summer, especially some of the hot 40C+ locations I travel to.

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#3170296 - 10/28/13 02:09 PM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: drew2]
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I just had the German 0w30 put in and it seems to have a bit more torque than the G tech syn 5w30 I had in there, motor sounds the same. Wix filter/0w30 german syn Castrol.
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#3223289 - 12/21/13 12:43 AM Re: Castrol Edge Q&A Answers posted [Re: wwillson]
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Hi Wayne,
That was great!

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