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I guess you are right.
No diesel owners with turbos use Autolite plugs.
I guess you are right.
No diesel owners with turbos use Autolite plugs.
Autolite plug wires?
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Originally Posted By: mechtech2
No diesel owners with turbos use Autolite plugs.
Not strictly true. Autolite 1116 glowplugs are frequently used by folks with ALH-engined TDIs if they don't want to wait / pony up for Bosch or Beru.
No diesel owners with turbos use Autolite plugs.
Not strictly true. Autolite 1116 glowplugs are frequently used by folks with ALH-engined TDIs if they don't want to wait / pony up for Bosch or Beru.
I don't know about Autolite wires, I have never used them. I have used Autolite plugs in my current Dakota and the one I owned before it and never had any problems with the Autolite plugs. I recently switched to NGK plugs on my last tune-up and have had no trouble with either brand but I like the performance and power of the NGK's better.
I always use Belden Premium plug wires and Echlin distributor and ignition parts. Never had a lick of trouble with any of those, either.
I always use Belden Premium plug wires and Echlin distributor and ignition parts. Never had a lick of trouble with any of those, either.
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I'm using Autolite in my 87 Buick Grand National. I run 20psi of boost too and never a miss or problem. Autolite plugs are fine.
I'm not surprised, i think they are a decent plug.
I'm using Autolite in my 87 Buick Grand National. I run 20psi of boost too and never a miss or problem. Autolite plugs are fine.
I'm not surprised, i think they are a decent plug.
Just to clarify things guys, I'm not saying that ANYTHING autolite is junk. I'm saying that they are WAY down on the list for quality. Can anyone who knows something about metallurgy, manufacturing, or engineering honestly look at an Autolite spark plug and compare it to an NGK, Denso, or Bosch plug and come to the conclusion that the Autolite is just as good or better?
If you really want to trip my trigger, then tell me you like Champion spark plugs. Those are with the sludge at the bottom of the barrel.
If you really want to trip my trigger, then tell me you like Champion spark plugs. Those are with the sludge at the bottom of the barrel.
I have often wondered why SAAB used NGK rather than Bosch plugs for years, (prior to the Government Motors "takeover" anyway). I use NGK plugs in my BMW aircooled bike, NGK is well regarded on the BMW bike forums. The same plug fits my Honda mower. It's NGK or Denso in my Toyotas, plugs, wires, sensors, whatever.
Gee I hate to get into this but I will say that I run Autolite wires and basic Autolite plugs in the 289 in my 65 Mustang and they seem to fine. They have been in it for a couple years now and have not missed a beat.
I used a couple sets on Honda Accord (87) and two Ford Rangers with the 8 plug 4 cyl and they not very good for durability. Good warranty, but replaced them a bunch of times. OEM much better. Would degrade from heat easily and misfire. Fit was so-so on these vehicles.
Go with Bosch or OEM for these.
Go with Bosch or OEM for these.
I put NGK plug wires and plugs in my Subaru. Otherwise, these cars can develop a mis-fire. NGK for me, period.
I can't even count the sets of Autolite wires that I've sold. The hold up really well. The connectors are crimped on the wires really well. In fact, I had a set that somehow had the wrong wires and I wanted to make sure that they would be defect and not find there way back on the shelf. It took an amazing amount of pulling, standing on one end to bust off the connector.
Autolite manufacturers Motorcraft plugs and new Fords come with either. I always recommend the original equipment plugs to our walk in customers. 95% of my commercial accounts only buy the OEM. If I could only sell one brand of plug it would be NGK.
Bosch plugs never except for the Super and the OEM plug for BMW's. NGK even has a good alternative for this plug as well.
E3's, not a big fan. A team member sold 16 for a Hemi Charger, they missed like crazy over 4000 rpm, went back to the OEM Champions and all was good.
Autolite manufacturers Motorcraft plugs and new Fords come with either. I always recommend the original equipment plugs to our walk in customers. 95% of my commercial accounts only buy the OEM. If I could only sell one brand of plug it would be NGK.
Bosch plugs never except for the Super and the OEM plug for BMW's. NGK even has a good alternative for this plug as well.
E3's, not a big fan. A team member sold 16 for a Hemi Charger, they missed like crazy over 4000 rpm, went back to the OEM Champions and all was good.
This is David Jones / Fabricator / CNC Machinist / turbo specialist and owner,operator for Cycle-Logic LLC. I have seen some strange things related to spark plugs while dyno tuning. Another thing in addition to this autolite issue is a misfire under boost at peak torque using the best palladium tip plugs designed for the turbo bikes. In the CBR1000rr kit, we replace them with a NGK Cr9eH-9 which costs less than 30% or the so called best turbo plugs. It could be that the tiny tip just can handle the choice of tune usually (11.5 to 11.7): 1 air to fuel at max torque. It seemed like a rich misfire to me that the less expensive plug handles just fine. I don't remember the engine build up on the Mustang that frankie setup but but I do remember the power loss as verified by the Dyno Dynamics chassis dyno. it may be a similar problem to what we are experiencing currently with the turbo bike kits. depending on the build, the tuning AFR target changes as well and some plugs can't handle the rich tune needed for high performacne cars and bikes. Hope this helps, Thanks, David
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