Mazda V6 OEM Mahle oil filter

[TheMAN]

I got a OEM Mazda V6 oil filter (p/n: JEY0-14-302 -9A) cut open today and was very impressed at how well built it is. I already knew Mazda sells very good oil filters for their older cars and this is confirmation that this is still happening.

There's pics around the web for the Tokyo Roki made Mazda filters as well as the Tennex ones. Tokyo Roki filters are rarely supplied to the US market and are primarily served for Asian markets. Tennex was bought out from Mahle around 6-7 years ago so Mazda USA no longer sells filters made by Tennex but sell Mahle ones instead (interestingly, the blue Mazda Canada filters are Tennex ones, I will have to guess that they never ran down their supply to need reordering).

Nowhere on the filter is "Mahle" printed on it, but the logo exists and tells you it is a Mahle if you recognize it.

Just like other Mahle filters, it was very difficult to cut the can. The metal is very thick and therefore can hold a lot of oil pressure (good for those autobahn runs and weekend races ). The element was very well glued together with metal caps on each end. Removing the metal caps as well as unfolding the element involved some destruction (from brute forcing) in order for it to happen.

I counted the pleats to be 117 and spread out to a length of 5'4" (I forgot to measure the width, I'll have to guess its around 3" to 3.25", I will look monday)-- an insane amount of filtration area for a 65mm X 85mm filter!

Enjoy the pics:

FYI, I have no idea how many miles is on this filter, it was just sitting in the pile ready to be crushed. Regardless, it held up very well and NOTHING got disformed inside unlike cheaply made filters

 

[TheMAN]

Here's some pics to compare with a brand new filter (Tokyo Roki filter included also):

 

[HTSS_TR]

Thank you for the pictures. Mazda OEM filters looks very high quality. Like other Japanese OEM filters, the quality is hard to beat.

Mahle, Mann and other German filters are very high quality.

 

[TheMAN]

I can't say the same for Subaru and Honda filters... they both cheaped out and went to Honeywell filters (I'm not up to date on the Honda S2000 filter as last I know they were Tokyo Roki, but at least with the Subaru 6 cyl filter, it is still a Tokyo Roki... I guess it'll be like this until the stock runs out)

The Thailand made Denso filters for Toyotas aren't as good as the old Japan Denso filters also, but they're still OK by my book.

 

[labman]

Once again, you can't judge a filter by its outside. I doubt there was a full 3'' of usable media in a filter only 85 mm high, but may have been close.

Oh did you see that Baldwin video claiming distortion of the media isn't the filter, but moisture and coolant contamination?

 

[sdude2k2000]

Are you sure that's a Mahle? Looks more like a Denso with the rounded rubber gasket design & press-fit baseplate -vs- crimped.

This is the Mahle spec oil filter for the Mazda 6 3.0 V6 (my parents have one...)

 

[SuperBusa]

Originally Posted By: sdude2k2000
Are you sure that's a Mahle? Looks more like a Denso with the rounded rubber gasket design & press-fit baseplate -vs- crimped.

This is the Mahle spec oil filter for the Mazda 6 3.0 V6 (my parents have one...)

Originally Posted By: TheMAN

Nowhere on the filter is "Mahle" printed on it, but the logo exists and tells you it is a Mahle if you recognize it.


Look at the logo on the side of the can (you can see it on the Mazda filters) that looks like an arrow going through filter media. Apparantly that is the registered Mahle logo trademark (see circled R on the Mahle can) the OP is talking about.

 

[sdude2k2000]

Good point. I'd at least say it's an Asian built Mahle (not German). Here's a Denso pic for comparison... it's what threw me off.

 

[TheMAN]

Originally Posted By: sdude2k2000
Are you sure that's a Mahle? Looks more like a Denso with the rounded rubber gasket design & press-fit baseplate -vs- crimped.

This is the Mahle spec oil filter for the Mazda 6 3.0 V6 (my parents have one...)

I am very sure it is a Mahle... the Mazda6 V6 is a Ford engine (AJ engine, almost like what's in the Fusion, Five Hundred, Escape, Jaguars, etc), not a Mazda V6 engine.... hence why I said "older mazdas" in my original post This is the OC 196 filter I am talking about which is meant for the K8, KF, KL, KJ, J5, JE, G5, G6, and GY engines... of course it fits the *real* Mazda 4 cylinder engines such as the BP and FS just fine

the base plate on Mahle filters are also pretty unique IMO, they have rounded sides and are always unpainted unlike other filters out there. The metal used also doesn't appear to oxidize as quickly as others so they look "shiny" compared to others.

and finally, characteristics of this filter I cut apart is very much like the other real Mahle branded filters (not for Mazdas) posted on this board to convince me without a doubt that this is a Mahle filter... besides the fact that the logo is on the can
Originally Posted By: sdude2k2000
Good point. I'd at least say it's an Asian built Mahle (not German). Here's a Denso pic for comparison... it's what threw me off.

no, it isn't Asian built... firstly, I don't believe Mahle has any plants in Asia, and secondly, the packaging says Mazda Europe all over it.... what's not in the pics also is the warehouse packing/sorting sticker that states the country of origin which IIRC was marked austria, if not europe

mazda never used denso filters, and any filter from asia is going to be a Tokyo Roki from Japan... I saw a small run of these 2 years ago when the yen was low, until they went back to the Mahles again... I'm still kicking myself for not getting more of those Tokyo Rokis that way I could use one and cut one up!

 

[TheMAN]

ok, I just dug through my garage for the stash of filters to find that sticker

 

[sdude2k2000]

Well I can see you've done your homework, well done. I hope you can see my confusion as the Mazda filter you posted & the Denso's have identical baseplates minus the 6 vs 8 holes.

In any case, great find! Our local Ford/Mazda dealer simply uses the Motorcraft FL-820s on the Mazda6 v6 engine because (as you stated) it is a Ford engine... and I'm sure it's cheaper to get those filters vs the OEM Mazda. Sorry about the confusion.

SO... you are stating this filter fits the older Mazda v6 and newer Mazda 4-cyl engines? I know there are two identically spec'd filters, minus the length... the newer 4-cyl get the shorter spec, the older B2300 pickups & whatnot get the longer version (well anymore I think they're all spec'd for the shorter version). Would you mind measuring one of these bad boys' height for me? My mx5 can't quite safely squeeze the longer version under there w/o bringing it too close for comfort to a lower crossmember. However I know that Ford recently shortened their version (FL-400s) by about 1/2", and that extra 1/2" makes it now fit under my car. I wonder if Mazda has done the same?

 

[TheMAN]

the "JEY0" filter is meant for older (true) Mazda V6... but it does fit the older Mazda 4 cylinder (gasoline) engines which specifically calls for the "B6Y1" filter which has the same diameter but is 65mm tall instead... in otherwords, the Mazda rotary (except for the very new 2009+ 13B-MSP engine in the RX-8 that runs much higher oil pressure and thus a different spec'd relief valve... that filter looks identical on the outside to the "JEY0" filter but is not interchangeable), B-series, F-series, G-series, and Z-series engines calls for the shorter filter, but will work fine with the taller V6 one... the only new school mazda engines to use the "B6Y1" filter is the 1.3l ZJ, 1.5l ZY, and 1.6l Z6 engines in the Mazda2 and overseas Mazda3...

we will get the Mazda2 later this year with the ZY engine, so anyone who gets one of these cars can put in the taller "JEY0" filter without problems like other mazda enthusiasts have done in the past... I'm pretty certain that the Ford Fiesta will use the same filter specs also, but you'll just get a domestically (Purolator?) made Motorcraft filter from the Ford dealer instead much like how things were in the past for the Probe, 91+ Escort/ZX2, and 92+ Mercury Capri



as for the FL-820 filter, I'm pretty sure the "AJTM" Mazda branded filter is the same thing as it looks very much like a Motorcraft from what I've seen... the "LF05" filter Mazda (for the Duratec based "MZR" engines) sells also, looks like a relabeled Motorcraft filter used for the Focus too... I think it is against the rules to link to the thread (off site) that has cutaway pics of the "LF05" filter, but I'll tell you that it's on the Toronto Mazda3 board if you want to go look for it... I have a stash of "LF10" filters (for my Mazda3) so I don't have a "LF05" to look at off hand... the "LF10" is what was available here and still is used in Europe (made in UK), and the "LF05" is the superceding part that came to place a couple of years ago... I will cut open an "LF10" filter when I get the chance so that we can all figure out what it is because I'm dying to know who made it! It is a very different design from the "LF05" especially due to the fact that the flutes on the grip end are different, thus fixed sized filter tools are not interchangeable.... FWIW, I believe the "LF05" (Motorcraft FL-400?) filter is a bit smaller than the UK made "LF10" filter, so that is probably what you got... forgive me if I'm wrong, my memory is a bit fuzzy

 

[sdude2k2000]

My local dealership uses a Motorcraft FL-910 or Mazda equivalent (white in color, can't remember part #) on the Mazda/Ford 4-cyl MZR... both of which are simply re-branded Purolator Classic's. Approx 3.4" or 86mm in length.

The longer version of the Motorcraft FL-910 is the FL-400s... which up until about 6mo ago was approx 4.8" or 122mm in length, however they recently shortened it to be about 1/2" shorter.

I did some homework on the JEYO filter and its threads are different than my 4-cyl. I got excited thinking I could use it, oh well. Nothing wrong with the Motorcraft filters!

I AM curious about the LF05 and LF10 difference you are speaking of. Any way to get some comparison shots from the outside?

 

[sdude2k2000]

BTW... i found the pic on the toronto Mazda3 forum you were referring to... that is the filter my local dealer sells. Simply a Purolator Classic re-branded w/ Mazda logo... nothing special.

 

[TheMAN]

Originally Posted By: sdude2k2000
My local dealership uses a Motorcraft FL-910 or Mazda equivalent (white in color, can't remember part #) on the Mazda/Ford 4-cyl MZR... both of which are simply re-branded Purolator Classic's. Approx 3.4" or 86mm in length.

The longer version of the Motorcraft FL-910 is the FL-400s... which up until about 6mo ago was approx 4.8" or 122mm in length, however they recently shortened it to be about 1/2" shorter.

I did some homework on the JEYO filter and its threads are different than my 4-cyl. I got excited thinking I could use it, oh well. Nothing wrong with the Motorcraft filters!

I AM curious about the LF05 and LF10 difference you are speaking of. Any way to get some comparison shots from the outside?

delayed apologies for the confusion about the JEY0 filter still... I thought I explained clearly that the filter works only for older mazda engines, which basically means it won't work on your MX-5, nor the Mazda3, nor the Mazda6, just for starters... older Mazda engines uses metric threads whereas these ford based engines in the new school mazdas uses imperial threads... but the differences don't end there... the mounting base diameter is much larger compared to the old school (real) mazda engines... so it wouldn't work anyway even by force


I don't have much pics of the LF10 filter off hand, and I'm too lazy to dig through my garage for the stash... but here's one I took when I added an OEM oil cooler to my 3:

here's another from a now dead site:

again keep in mind that the LF10 filter is made in UK and looks very different from the Purolator rebranded LF05s... I do hope that the LF10 is a better filter, but we can only speculate until I or someone else cuts one open

 

[Focus]

Here is one from Mazda Canada's stock:

It does say Product of the USA on the filter

 

[TheMAN]

thanks focus for posting that canadian "G6Y0-14-302A-CA" filter... as I stated in my original post, this is a tennex filter... don't let the blue color deceive you, it isn't made by Honeywell as some others have stated on other forums (this maybe true in the past, but there's no way to confirm this)

I've tried to find pics of the B6Y2-14-302A (Tennex filter) but I only came up with dead links... so anyone who wants to really see for themselves, have fun searching!

oh, and I measured the width of that Mahle element... labman was right, there isn't 3" of media, but a mere 2"... but with the insane pleat count, the square inches isn't bad at all

if you google "Protege filter taken apart - see what it's made out of!", you will find a thread on a mazda forum of an Mazda OEM Mahle B6Y1 filter... it is surprising to see that it has almost half the filtering capacity of the JEY0 filter

 

[UNEEKONE]

How much are the tennex filters worth if they are original?