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#1476176 - 05/25/09 11:24 AM Motorcraft gold coolent
millerbl00 Online   mad


Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Louisiana
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem in a 2003 F150. It uses motorcraft gold coolent. Does anyone know how much POTASSIUM and sodium it contains?

Thanks

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#1476191 - 05/25/09 11:46 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
peterdaniel Offline


Registered: 07/22/08
Posts: 275
Loc: Californ I/A
Why? Is it having cardiac problems?

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#1476556 - 05/25/09 09:05 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: peterdaniel]
CROWNVIC4LIFE Offline


Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 3735
Loc: Miami-Dade County
I am sorry that I can't help you with your question but since you brought up Motorcraft Gold Coolant I was told by my Ford dealer to change it out at 60K miles not the 100K miles that Ford recommends...Since I plan on keeping my Crown Vic to 300K miles it sounds like a good idea...Especially in this jungle heat and traffic.

The green stuff on my older cars I used to dump out at 30K miles.
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#1476776 - 05/26/09 07:07 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: CROWNVIC4LIFE]
millerbl00 Online   mad


Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 849
Loc: Louisiana
I also change around 60K. Cheap insurance.

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#1521972 - 07/05/09 07:05 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
pzev Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 601
Loc: arctic
The dealer was most likely looking to empty your pockets and not protecting your car.

That said, I do quick drain and refils on my Ford every 30k or so using G-05...as like posted above, its easy and cheap.

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#1542091 - 07/23/09 08:37 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: pzev]
artificialist Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 7506
Loc: Florida
The G-05 in my mom's Jeep Grand Cherokee looked okay when it was 3 years old and had 55,000 miles on it, but after I drained and filled the system, the car ran much better, and the coolant reservoir was cleaner.

The Ford dealer was not trying to be dishonest.

Ford Gold is just another G-05.
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#1542311 - 07/24/09 12:53 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: artificialist]
pzev Offline


Registered: 11/30/05
Posts: 601
Loc: arctic
I will say this about G-05...I get scale buildup in my overflow bottle. Its bad enough these plastic bottles turn yellow in no time, but this scale buildup is really ugly. I spent a couple days trying to clean it out, but the baffles kept getting in the way.
crushed ice and salt, no go...I even tried sand, and that worked pretty well but was a pain to rinse out.

So, I said skrew it and painted the darn thing flat black....looks great lol. Should have done that to start with and I wouldn't have cared about the scale.
I am pretty sure this is caused by the silicate content in G-05. That said, I haven't looked at enough Foci to see if its a widespread problem, or a result of me switching the motorcraft coolant out at 30k, and refilling with Zerex brand G-05. Perhaps the two didn't mix well...I don't know (they should have).

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#1680557 - 11/22/09 04:17 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: pzev]
cos Offline


Registered: 11/21/04
Posts: 1149
Loc: Metro Detroit
My '06 Fusion's overflow bottle looks fine. I did three drain 'n fills with Xerex G-05 this spring to replace the three yr old factory fill (including burping the system each time via the bleed valve).
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#2127166 - 01/04/11 03:44 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: cos]
Beachboy Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 109
Loc: Northeast Kansas
I was surprised to see that my new '11 Mercury Milan calls for the first coolant change at 105,000 miles, then every 45,000 miles thereafter. Also, I can find NO recommendation to ever change the fuel filter or automatic transaxle fluid. I'm currently changing the oil at 5,000 mile intervals, but the next oil change which is at 15,000 miles, I plan to switch to the 7,500 mile intervals the factory recommends. That would mesh better with tire rotation recommendations.

I agree that the dealer typically recommends increased servicing primarily to line their pockets. My dealer is still recommending 3,000 mile OCI's. Sorry folks, that's once a month for me, and its not gonna happen. On my previous car, the dealer "strongly recommended" fuel filter changes every 15,000 miles, along with new wiper blades, and some miracle fuel system cleaner dumped in the gas tank.
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#2127608 - 01/04/11 09:04 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
mechanicx Offline


Registered: 10/23/09
Posts: 8576
Loc: Ohio
I'm not sure that Motorcraft Gold/G-05 uses potassium but it does conain sodium and 3,000 ppm sodium would be a ball park figure for concentrate. How would knowing the potassium and sodium level diagnosis your coolant issue?

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#2606277 - 04/22/12 03:29 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
Gene K Offline


Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 3161
Loc: Decatur AL USA
G05 is Potassium free (added for future reference).


Edited by Gene K (04/22/12 03:30 AM)
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#2606389 - 04/22/12 09:18 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
boxcartommie22 Offline


Registered: 01/03/03
Posts: 3045
Loc: moutain country
get the [censored] g05 stuff out and put in final charge..go5 leaves alot of deposits one of the reasons ford not using it anymore.
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#2615596 - 05/02/12 08:08 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: boxcartommie22]
Falcon_LS Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 3671
Loc: Kuwait
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
get the [censored] g05 stuff out and put in final charge..go5 leaves alot of deposits one of the reasons ford not using it anymore.


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#2620783 - 05/07/12 10:17 PM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
Colt45ws Offline


Registered: 08/15/06
Posts: 7734
Loc: Central Washington
I dont have any deposits with G-05..?
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#2622757 - 05/10/12 12:19 AM Re: Motorcraft gold coolent [Re: millerbl00]
dave1251 Offline


Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 7628
Loc: Maricopa, AZ
I have crusty goo on my overflow tank on my F150 it is factory fill. Now on my wife's Focus no such problem.
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