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#1012438 - 10/19/07 06:16 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: POM]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 2133
Loc: Massachusetts
Thanks for all the good comments and reply. I am only using tufoil for 1 oil change. I might use it next oil change too just to give it some continuity and see what kind of trending I get. Using tufoil for 2 oil changes probably wont kill the engine and reduce its longevity by much. This car is also a company car and they usually retire all the fleet cars by 100k miles so I am not really worried. This is purely an experiment for the BITOG crowd and something to add to the archives on the board.

Lastly, adding 8oz of Tufoil to 5qts of PP dilutes it a lot so I am not worried about it being 50% Grp I oil. I will admit that I am a Moly guy and seeing that a whole bottle had over 2000ppm of moly, closed the deal on me trying it. In 2-3 months we'll see what the results are.

Thanks for all the replies. Cheers.

Deven
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#1012439 - 10/19/07 10:04 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: deven]
unDummy Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 8756
Loc: RI
A UOA needs comparison. Without a non-tufoil UOA before or after, data is meaningless, unless wear is totally excessive across the board.

Placebo effect? I guess that I'll save the above picture for EVERY product mentioned here, whether a sponsor or not.

BTW, Tufoil has the same effects in engines that I've thrown it in. Quiter, smoother, and better MPG is typical for it.

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#1012440 - 10/19/07 08:40 PM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: unDummy]
Curtis Newton Offline


Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 648
Loc: Colorado
I will have a UOA in about 2 months from my wife's RX330. I decided to try Tufoil out and see if I could tell any difference. I have previous UOAs with Mobil 1 EP 5W30 and am now running Pennzoil Platinum 5W30, so it will be interesting to see what things look like.
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#1012441 - 10/20/07 04:33 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: unDummy]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 2133
Loc: Massachusetts
Quote:

A UOA needs comparison. Without a non-tufoil UOA before or after, data is meaningless, unless wear is totally excessive across the board.

Placebo effect? I guess that I'll save the above picture for EVERY product mentioned here, whether a sponsor or not.

BTW, Tufoil has the same effects in engines that I've thrown it in. Quiter, smoother, and better MPG is typical for it.




I have 3 uoa's in the UOA section without tufoil. The first one was with M1 EP 5w30 and the other 2 were with Pennzoil 5w30 dino. This is the reason why I am anxious to get a uoa with PP and Tufoil...

Curtis, I'll be looking for your UOA since we both have the same exact engine. It'll be interesting to evaluate both our UOA's. I am actually willing to pay extra for Terry Dysons interpretations too. This way I dont leave any stones unturned. See what BITOG does to me......lol

Cheers,
Deven
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#1012442 - 10/21/07 12:42 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: unDummy]
TurboJim Offline


Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 829
Loc: Oregon
Quote:

BTW, Tufoil has the same effects in engines that I've thrown it in. Quiter, smoother, and better MPG is typical for it.




How quickly are you seeing these results with Tufoil?

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#1012443 - 10/21/07 04:10 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: TurboJim]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 2133
Loc: Massachusetts
Quote:

Quote:

BTW, Tufoil has the same effects in engines that I've thrown it in. Quiter, smoother, and better MPG is typical for it.




How quickly are you seeing these results with Tufoil?




Dont know about undummy but for me I saw the results right after i poured it in. I actually had to lower the volume on the radio because it felt too loud. The better fuel economy is not much but I've been getting an extra 15-20miles per tank with similar driving habits before.
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#1012444 - 10/21/07 04:33 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: deven]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5195
Loc: New York
I was thinking of adding Tufoil to my Rangers manual gearbox which spec's Mercon just because I have it and I don't want to put it in my motor. Does anybody see any harm in this? Will it mix with the ATF OK ? I remember reading years ago that SAAB owners were swearing that it made their
manual gearboxes much smoother. Whay say you all?

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#1012445 - 10/21/07 09:56 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: pbm]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
pbm - The synchros won't grab as well with the Tufoil. If they do, it isn't doing anything.
The apparent smoothness is because of possible less friction in sliding and rotating parts.

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#1012446 - 10/22/07 10:18 PM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: mechtech2]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5195
Loc: New York
Mechtech2: Thanks for the feedback. Could you give me a brief explanation of 'synchros' and what they do.

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#1012447 - 10/23/07 03:36 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: mechtech2]
deven Offline


Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 2133
Loc: Massachusetts
Quote:

pbm - The synchros won't grab as well with the Tufoil. If they do, it isn't doing anything.
The apparent smoothness is because of possible less friction in sliding and rotating parts.




Isnt less friction in sliding and rotating parts a good thing??
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#1012448 - 10/23/07 06:01 PM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: deven]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 5195
Loc: New York
Quote:

Quote:

pbm - The synchros won't grab as well with the Tufoil. If they do, it isn't doing anything.
The apparent smoothness is because of possible less friction in sliding and rotating parts.




Isnt less friction in sliding and rotating parts a good thing??




That's what I thought. This is a bit confusing.

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#1012449 - 10/23/07 09:07 PM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: pbm]
Tempest Offline


Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 10448
Loc: Las Vegas NV
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission.htm
The synchros have to have "grab" in order to match gear speeds when changing gears.
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#1012450 - 10/24/07 02:23 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: Tempest]
jonny-b Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 1071
Loc: Norway
Interesting to find out that B&S have started to use teflon... http://www.briggsandstratton.com/display/router.asp?DocID=98789

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#1012451 - 10/24/07 02:31 AM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: jonny-b]
TurboJim Offline


Registered: 10/30/04
Posts: 829
Loc: Oregon
What kind of proces is used that would keep Teflon / PFTE from breaking down on these parts like it does over time on frying pans?

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#1012452 - 10/24/07 02:24 PM Re: Decided to try Tufoil..... [Re: TurboJim]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Synchros are synchronizers - they physically need to grab another part as they spin, to get it to the same speed as it is, so the next gear can be engaged.
There are bearings, gears, shifter mechanisms, and other parts in the tranny, however. They LIKE a slick oil, but the synchros work better with more friction.

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