More bias against small and medium size blenders and bottlers? Not every company can be like Exxon or SOPUS.
Considering I’m personal friends with several ILMA owners… no. No bias at all.
I just know who’s who at the zoo.
More bias against small and medium size blenders and bottlers? Not every company can be like Exxon or SOPUS.
Warren Oil and Warren Distribution - now highline Warren - are very different companies with completely different ownership that are in no shape related outside of being in the oil industry.
Bunch of fun stories about both… however they’re not for the internet. I wouldn’t personally buy anything from Warren Oil…
Yeah it’s tough to put something like that out there and not explain further.Question is....
Why would you not buy anything from Warren Oil ?
What would be the rationale behind that ?
Just curious myself.
Question is....
Why would you not buy anything from Warren Oil ?
What would be the rationale behind that ?
Just curious myself.
Yeah it’s tough to put something like that out there and not explain further.
I use ST oils when nothing else is on sale. I have built up a small stash of Haveline boxes before the price went up.
I also have a 12 qt box of ST that I got on sale.
What‘s going on behind the scenes that might cause me to not want to use the ST oil?
I don’t particularly like what they do in the market place.
Anyone willing to sell off spec/non-spec products, I won’t do business with. Any one willing to make 303 fluid still, I won’t do business with.
My logic behind it is pretty sound. If they’re willing to cut corners, openly, what are they going to do privately?
If you’re me, and buying millions of gallons a year - sure I demand a CoA with every load. But what’s stopping them from forging a CoA? And the likelihood I’m going to catch it?
They have a history of bad business practices in a market that my company has been in going on 104 years. “We know a thing or two because we’ve seen a thing or two.” If someone has bad business practices on one side, they’ll probably have bad business practices other places.
That’s why.
If ST is supertech - that’s not Warren oil. Supertech is Warren Distribution/Highline Warren. Different company - see previous post.
Warren Oil is Coastal and Lubriguard brands and various other house brands.
There are very limited applications for a 303 hydraulic fluid. Has long as the label and TDS makes it very clear the very limited use of such fluid... Then I have no problem with it being available to purchase.
If a person buys a used D 10 dozer and pays $40,000 for it.... They better know what fluid it needs....
If someone buys a 2010 $200,000 JD piece of equipment.... They better know what fluid should go in it.
However... If a 303 hydraulic fluid is labeled like it's good for say a 1980s, 1990s or 2000s piece of heavy equipment..... Then that is a whole different circumstance right there. Then, yes I would take huge issue with that..
I know about the lawsuits involving other companies too in regards to this same type circumstance. Tractor Supply selling yellow bucket hydraulic fluid etc etc... And there have been other cases has well. Dollar General selling API SF motor oil has well.
And yes I agree that false advertising should not be permissable in a market place.
I will say though a legal finding does not carry as much weight with me as it used to. A very recent legal ruling against Alex Jones is another example of how ludicrous our system has become.
In the North Carolina case against those 4 Duke University students that was thrown out because of gross prosecutor misconduct... And that DA eventually being disbarred too. That case being thrown out in a rather stunning dismantling of the case happening in open court... Which just about never happens.... Did there.
Like a saying I heard a long time ago... " You could sue a ham sandwich".... It's true now more than ever.
Again.... If one buys even a older D 10 dozer ..... You better know what hydraulic fluid it really needs.
I watch the Gold Rush series and it
is amazing how much money even very old equipment still can cost a mining operation. Anyone starts shelling out 40-100k for older mining equipment better know what needs to go in that.
Much less someone buying 250,000 to 1.5 million or potentially even more for much newer large heavy equipment. They surely better know what goes in them to keep up their warranty or at a minimum keep that very expensive equipment running as it should.