Valvoline Synpower Oil Treament

[Motorbike]

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Originally posted by Blue99:

What's the function of the polyisobutylene other than a heavy viscosity synthetic fluid that justifies the "synpower" label?

LOL,BTW, Motorbike, you told Marty/Brian that you were busy knitting a quilt while actually you were out in the garage dumping esters into your engine!

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You have a good memory

I always associated polyisobutylene with synthetic two stroke oils . Here it's spoke about briefly then hit applications and it tells of adding lubricity in motor oil formulas .

Hmmm , Might be a good additive for that plastic feeling M1

Funnin with the plastic thing..kinda sorta

http://www.txpetrochem.com/p/poly.htm

 

[Motorbike]

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Originally posted by Cutehumor:

how much does it cost? Where to buy? Can you tell I've never seen it.

This looks like a good add to beef up some 5w-30 I inherited

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I bought this for 2.99 at Oreilly's . Have saw it at Autozones from 2.99 - 3.99 depending on the State it seems . Yep I told on myself , I went into a few parts stores on vacation this year

Yep on the 5w-30 as they seem to start thinning at around 2k miles .

That Mystik 5w-30 took on a different feel between the fingers with this stuff in it at 1 ounce to 5 quarts . I know , I know not a way to judge a oil

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by JeepZJ4.0:
The FL1A is extra long compared to the PH16 I'm supposed to use.

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Well now you have another option with the L40017!

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Originally posted by Motorbike:
Autozones from 2.99 - 3.99 depending on the State it seems .

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Have not seen the Synpower OT cheaper than $3.99. Autozone and Pep Boys have it. I think Murrays too. The MLEP ranges up to $5.50. I took my four MLEP back to Walmart today and am going to wait for the Synpower to go on sale. I don't see where I can go wrong with a Valvoline add in Valvoline oil.

Hey, Wallmart had Champion engine treatment, synthetic stuff, no PFTE for around $12 a bottle. At that price, might as well just run all M1 I would think.

 

[JeepZJ4.0]

I like the Synpower stuff. I've used it with Delo. My Jeep runs quite well now. I use the whole 15 oz bottle in my 6 qt sump. I also run an extra long filter (FL1A equiv.) to hold the extra amount of oil.

 

[boxcartommie22]

help me understand here. by looking at the above additives the synpower oil treatment is by far a better additive compared to # 132 which has little if anything...what iam i missing?

 

[Callisa]

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I don't see where I can go wrong with a Valvoline add in Valvoline oil.

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Except that it might be a waste of money.... burnout:

 

[RB Shannon]

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# 132 which has little if anything...what iam i missing?

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The carrier used in the #132 is the advantage it has IMO
Do a search in the additives section for 132 and member #59

 

[MolaKule]

The only thing you are seeing in VOA's are the elemental components. You CANNOT see non-metallic adds such as organic AW, EP, and FM modifiers.

The 132 has has a unique base oil (carrier) that acts as an organic surfactant and friction modifier. It also has organo-metallic AW/AO's as well.

VOA's will NOT show the organic components, such as say esterified AW or EP agents.

In terms of price/performance, I would say they are about equal today. When MEP was available at $2.94, it may have been a better buy, but not anymore.

BTW, we have to look at VOA's as baseline's only with a trending for UOA's of the product to determine its worth.

You CANNOT tell the TOTALITY of an oil by looking at a VOA. Common guys, how many times must that be stated?

 

[boxcartommie22]

thank you molecule

 

[97tbird]

How well would this "plan" work, you think?

This Synpower Oil Treatment: 5 oz.
plus MC 5/30 syn-blend: 5 qts
plus one 4.6L modular 1997 w/100k miles which is sort of short-driven...
plus one MC FL-820s filter
for the 5-6 winter months in NC?

any chance/fear of an additive-clash?
might it be too thick for winter(nc)?

Think this engine would be happy?
Thanks.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: Motorbike
This is the product in the grey 15 ounce bottle .

Iron 1
Aluminum 1
Lead 5
Tin 10
Sodium 3
Potassium 10
Moly 234
Boron 289
Calcium 85
Magnesium 24
Phos 1578
Zinc 1565
Antimony 30

VI @ 100c 232.7
VI Index 228
TBN 2.58

I think some of the metals come as a part of the Antimony " trio or tri " I forget .

And the red bottle 15 ounce Valvoline Maxlife Additive copied and pasted here from other samples posted previously for comparison in one link for an easier view .

Al 3
Silicon 0
Sodium 12
Potassium 11
Molybdenum 489
Phosphorus 567
Zinc 625
Calcium 240
Magnesium 57

TAN 0.9
TBN 8
VI @ 100c 15.3


The Schaeffer's # 132 Moly EP Treatment

Chromium 1
Nickel 1
Lead 3
Tin 1
Silver 0.3
Vanadium 3
Moly 23
Phosphorus 104
Zinc 6
Antimony 23

Vi @ 40c 2545.6
Vi @ 100c 238.5
VI Index 232
TAN 0.17
TBN 0.34

[ August 19, 2004, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]


Bump! Been looking for some stats on the red bottle since it's available at both Big Lots and Ollies here for a couple of buck$.

 

[Turk]

Thanks for the bump, just read this thread a few days ago.

I'm running 1/3 bottle VSOT in my '01 Saturn for additional Moly protection that should extend it's life.

 

[Nickdfresh]

You're welcome, took a while to find something. The MaxLife additive looks pretty hearty with a TBN of 8 and lots of moly...

 

[Turk]

The Moly is great for people who are looking for wear reduction.

With more people keeping cars longer due to the economy, anti-wear additives should be sought out.

VSOT delivers.

 

[Nickdfresh]

Does Valvoline still make the Synpower Treatment?

 

[addyguy]

Nope.