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so my 98 f150 is pretty rusty under neath.... is there anything i can do to prevent it from getting worse? is it to late for under carriage spray? do i have to do anything special to it before i apply?
 
Nothing short of replacing the rusty areas is going to stop or slow down the rust.

What you can do, for now, is have the frame, etc, sand blasted and repainted. You need to get rid of EVERY LAST BIT of rust in order for it to stop spreading.

Fords tend to rust much worse than anything else
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I had a similar situation on my truck. I took it to a shop and they scraped/wire brushed all the rust off. Then they applied a rust converter and a rubberized undercoating.

I don't know how much it helped, but I figured it was a lot better then leaving it the way it was.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Nothing short of replacing the rusty areas is going to stop or slow down the rust.

What you can do, for now, is have the frame, etc, sand blasted and repainted. You need to get rid of EVERY LAST BIT of rust in order for it to stop spreading.

Fords tend to rust much worse than anything else
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Really? Have you ever looked at a Dodge or a GM product lately? Its all about how you take care of them no matter what brand!
 
I have to say the 2008-up GM trucks have faired pretty well as of late,rust wise,but the 1988-2007 generations really are bad.Frame,shock mounts,shackles,rockers,cab corners,door bottoms,rear cab mounts....
The 1996-back Fords really rusted in the bed area,rear wheelips,door bottoms,cab corners.
Dodges (1994-up_) have always had bottom of door rust and rear wheellip rust.
2004-up Fords (F150s especially)have done really well,but I have noticed random rusting,including even holes around the gas door.
 
Originally Posted By: zues50
so my 98 f150 is pretty rusty under neath.... is there anything i can do to prevent it from getting worse? is it to late for under carriage spray? do i have to do anything special to it before i apply?


Media blast all exposed metal. Clean with brake cleaner in a clean dry shop then use a rubberized coating. I used spray on truck bed liner on my 99 Chevy silverados undercarriage. Did it 4 years ago. It's durable,and looks good.
 
Originally Posted By: Donald
Fluid Film or CarWell will help here. A lot easier than other options.


+1. Id also consider CorrosionX. Really the right fix is to cut out the bad metal and put in new metal welded to good spots. Otherwise its like having cancer and not having surgery, chemo or radiation.

If youre really intent on NOT fixing it and just coating it, I'd probably start with a very thin coating like the low-viscosity carwell product to get some inhibition and good wetting of the surface, then coat that after a few days with Boeshield T9, and then coat that after a few days with the heavier carwell product or fluid film, and keep re-topping it.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: zues50
so my 98 f150 is pretty rusty under neath.... is there anything i can do to prevent it from getting worse? is it to late for under carriage spray? do i have to do anything special to it before i apply?


Media blast all exposed metal. Clean with brake cleaner in a clean dry shop then use a rubberized coating. I used spray on truck bed liner on my 99 Chevy silverados undercarriage. Did it 4 years ago. It's durable,and looks good.


No way Id just undercoat with rubber. The rubber will have pockets that allow moisture to exist. Id at minimum pre-prime with a zinc rich primer.
 
Fluid Film or CarWell will help here. A lot easier than other options.

Right there was your answer, I have a 2001 Ford Escort with "0" rust, I keep up with it every fall.

And I live in Northern Indiana's salt belt.
 
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I have done a few of these Ford frames. If you wait too long there will be no stopping it or even slowing it down.

Use an air powered needle scaler on the rust then coat the bottom of the frame surfaces with chip guard (Napa 13 bucks or so in black).
Coat the entire frame with a good wax based undercoating like Noxudol 900.

I did a 99 Expedition this way 5 yrs ago and its still fine, no rust came back in NE wnters.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Nothing short of replacing the rusty areas is going to stop or slow down the rust.

What you can do, for now, is have the frame, etc, sand blasted and repainted. You need to get rid of EVERY LAST BIT of rust in order for it to stop spreading.

Fords tend to rust much worse than anything else
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I can think of quite a few examples that rust a lot quicker than Ford trucks..... like anything Toyota with a bed.
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However, Krown/Rust Check certainly slow rust significantly, as do likely any of the oil-based undercoatings.
 
To be fair DANA made the lousy frames for both Ford and Toyota IIRC. My dads 99 Ranger 4x4 bought new broke in half at 9 yrs.
 
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Take your F150 north to Schmid's Auto Body in Syracuse, NY or west to Maag's Auto Body in Sandusky, Ohio for a Rust Check application.

Doesn't matter what you drive if you don't take the proper preventative measures to alleviate rust, it will get a foothold.

I received a letter from Toyota that they are offering a free application of a "corrosion-resistant compound" to the frame of our 2002 Sequoia for vehicles registered in: CT,DE,IL,IN,KY,MA,MD,ME,MI,MN,NH,NJ,NY,OH,PA,RI,VA,VT,WI, & WV. They require two days and will give a loaner during that period.

I'll hold off 'til the Spring to have it applied by Toyota because the Rust Check application I had done 2 years ago is still sloshing around in paneling and subframe last I checked. It's only been treated with Rust Check once. No rotten, rusted frame this vehicle and I have seen some pretty bad Sequoias/Tundras.

Likewise I have seen some BADLY rusted 3rd generation 4Runners but our 1997 4Runners underchasis is pristine. It has only received 2 Rust Check treatments in its lifetime.

Both vehicles have been driven coast-to-coast and up to Canada during the harshest winters through salt-covered roadways. I'm planning a road-trip to Alaska w/ the 4Runner to look at some prime salmon-fishing real estate in the near future. My point being our vehicles have seen the worst of brined-roads and have yet to have any rust on the subframes.

Depending on how long you expect to keep your F150, I'd get the rust problem addressed promptly.

Good Luck!!
 
Fluid Film or Carwell products for DIY stuff.

Definitely wash down everything very well in the spring once the salt is off the roads, then apply some oily undercoating then. Do another coat in the fall while it's still warm out. It should be good to go.
 
You mean anything Toyota with a frame LOL

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Nothing short of replacing the rusty areas is going to stop or slow down the rust.

What you can do, for now, is have the frame, etc, sand blasted and repainted. You need to get rid of EVERY LAST BIT of rust in order for it to stop spreading.

Fords tend to rust much worse than anything else
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I can think of quite a few examples that rust a lot quicker than Ford trucks..... like anything Toyota with a bed.
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However, Krown/Rust Check certainly slow rust significantly, as do likely any of the oil-based undercoatings.
 
Like I said it all boils down to not what you drive but how you take care of it.

Growing up my family has had 3 generations of Pontiac Firebirds, 3 Jeeps, 2 Chevys, Subaru, BMW, Mercedes, and a Toyota Celica Supra Mark II (The most reliable of the bunch my Dad always reminds me). None of them had any rust problems. Currently my family owns 3 Lexus', 4 Toyotas and a Cadillac and similarly not one of them has any rust problems.

So naming any single manufacturer that rusts inherently more than others is simply horse feces to say it bluntly. Rust has never plagued any of our vehicles.
 
Originally Posted By: GenSan
Take your F150 north to Schmid's Auto Body in Syracuse, NY or west to Maag's Auto Body in Sandusky, Ohio for a Rust Check application.

Doesn't matter what you drive if you don't take the proper preventative measures to alleviate rust, it will get a foothold.

I received a letter from Toyota that they are offering a free application of a "corrosion-resistant compound" to the frame of our 2002 Sequoia for vehicles registered in: CT,DE,IL,IN,KY,MA,MD,ME,MI,MN,NH,NJ,NY,OH,PA,RI,VA,VT,WI, & WV. They require two days and will give a loaner during that period.

I'll hold off 'til the Spring to have it applied by Toyota because the Rust Check application I had done 2 years ago is still sloshing around in paneling and subframe last I checked. It's only been treated with Rust Check once. No rotten, rusted frame this vehicle and I have seen some pretty bad Sequoias/Tundras.

Likewise I have seen some BADLY rusted 3rd generation 4Runners but our 1997 4Runners underchasis is pristine. It has only received 2 Rust Check treatments in its lifetime.

Both vehicles have been driven coast-to-coast and up to Canada during the harshest winters through salt-covered roadways. I'm planning a road-trip to Alaska w/ the 4Runner to look at some prime salmon-fishing real estate in the near future. My point being our vehicles have seen the worst of brined-roads and have yet to have any rust on the subframes.

Depending on how long you expect to keep your F150, I'd get the rust problem addressed promptly.

Good Luck!!


Do they sill do the rust checking? I tried to find a rust check or krown around Syracuse and couldn't. I'll have to check for next year.
 
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