Tell me about the 2.0L High-Output EcoBoost

[MCompact]

What really gripes me about the ST(not to mention non-///M BMWs) is the lack of a standard or optional LSD. Standard on my Mazdaspeed 3 and optional an Miatas, GTIs, Camaros, Challengers, and Mustangs.

And I love the deer in the headlights look I see when I tell a newby sales drone I want an LSD- I always get the "The car doesn't need one sir, it is equipped with traction control." [censored].
Morons.

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: dothedrew1202


Had a 2012 Mazda 3 2.0 w/ skyactiv and it wasn't all that fun to drive to be honest. I ended up selling it after a year when my wife got pregnant because it isn't even big enough for an infant car seat.


You have to be careful when selecting carseats. I have 2 in my 2012 Mazda3 with no issues other than you can't recline. car seats vary in depth quite a bit.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

My parents have that engine in their Escape. They are closing in on 40K miles now. Fuel economy is quite acceptable for the size of the vehicle and having AWD. It consumes no oil (they came from an oil burning Jeep) and has great power.

By "great power", I mean holy cow, will that thing move! It can propel itself to probably-not-legal speeds without even trying.

 

[rodinator1234]

I have a 13 Focus ST and I really like it and have had only one problem with it. They have a tendency to blow the charge pipe intercooler hose off. I drove several cars before I decided on the ST. I really thought I would end up with a WRX, but for the money I feel I got more car with the Focus.

 

[badtlc]

I have driven the motor in 2 vehicles, the Focus ST and my dad's Escape AWD. Amazingly smooth power plant. Very quiet in the Escape, too. Great torque.

 

[MCompact]

The February Car and Driver contains the wrap-up of their 40,000 mile long term test of a Focus ST. They gave it a very positive evaluation. The article mentions that the car remained tight and performed as well at the end of the test as at the beginning.

 

[hotwheels]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
The Mazda Skyactiv engine would be at the top of my list.


It's definitely up there. I wouldn't mind a few horses and a bit more torque than the 2.5 liter Skyactiv offers, though. I also wish Mazda was able to finally get their diesel options certified for NA.

hotwheels


I sat in the backseat of a Mazda 3. I'm 6 feet tall, but I guess your baby is bigger than me!

hotwheels

 

[badtlc]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
The Mazda Skyactiv engine would be at the top of my list.


It's definitely up there. I wouldn't mind a few horses and a bit more torque than the 2.5 liter Skyactiv offers, though. I also wish Mazda was able to finally get their diesel options certified for NA.

hotwheels


I sat in the backseat of a Mazda 3. I'm 6 feet tall, but I guess your baby is bigger than me!

hotwheels


Rear facing carseats are very awkwardly shaped and it can be a real hassle finding a good fit if you can find one. An 8 lb. newborn takes up way more space in a backseat than most above average sized adults. It is crazy and frustrating. Turning them forward facing is such a relief. It is like you get a new larger car, instantly.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Plus you allow the child to see you. Object permanency is not seen in most small babies, and many will shriek simply because they cannot see you in the car!

 

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: RISUPERCREWMAN
I personally would Not buy any Ecoboost engine. Even the ESP Warranty does Not cover the turbos! That says it all for me!



ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. They specifically list turbo's as covered equipment.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: RISUPERCREWMAN
I personally would Not buy any Ecoboost engine. Even the ESP Warranty does Not cover the turbos! That says it all for me!



ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. They specifically list turbo's as covered equipment.


Yep, even though Ford's warranty is not very competitive when compared to other makes they do cover turbos...

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yep, even though Ford's warranty is not very competitive when compared to other makes they do cover turbos...


I'm glad that got sorted out. That Ford wouldn't cover turbos seemed like a ridiculous statement. I wonder if that rumor got started because a few people had too much fun with their tuning software and Ford got tired of footing the bill for modified cars.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yep, even though Ford's warranty is not very competitive when compared to other makes they do cover turbos...


I'm glad that got sorted out. That Ford wouldn't cover turbos seemed like a ridiculous statement. I wonder if that rumor got started because a few people had too much fun with their tuning software and Ford got tired of footing the bill for modified cars.


All mfgrs are at war with the aftermarket. Unapproved tunes damage a ton of cars these days and they are taking many different steps to protect themselves.

Absolutely no aftermarket supplier sweats the details like the OEM does with extensive testing that is simply too costly for the tuner folks...

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: MCompact
If my next sled had to be FWD(and I could live without a mechanical limited slip) the Focus ST would be one of my top choices.


Does Quaife, or any of the Nippon limited slip manufacturers make one for these cars?

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Does Quaife, or any of the Nippon limited slip manufacturers make one for these cars?

I'm sure they do. I know there are several options for the GTI.

I understand that it's a 75% solution, but the electronic brake "LSD" solution actually works quite nicely if you're not ham-fisted with the throttle. The drawback is that it doesn't provide the feedback a mechanical limited slip would and too much throttle can overwhelm the brake caliper and make it useless. But if you get it right, it's very effective.

 

[artificialist]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yep, even though Ford's warranty is not very competitive when compared to other makes they do cover turbos...


I'm glad that got sorted out. That Ford wouldn't cover turbos seemed like a ridiculous statement. I wonder if that rumor got started because a few people had too much fun with their tuning software and Ford got tired of footing the bill for modified cars.


All mfgrs are at war with the aftermarket. Unapproved tunes damage a ton of cars these days and they are taking many different steps to protect themselves.

Absolutely no aftermarket supplier sweats the details like the OEM does with extensive testing that is simply too costly for the tuner folks...

Newer ECMS detect being reflashed, and have permanent codes that can't be erased. The Mitsubishi Evo X is that way.

That in mind, if the car was unmodified, it makes no sense to exclude the turbos from warranty. I doubt any factory turbo cars would get popular if people were paying huge prices to repair low mileage cars.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yep, even though Ford's warranty is not very competitive when compared to other makes they do cover turbos...


I'm glad that got sorted out. That Ford wouldn't cover turbos seemed like a ridiculous statement. I wonder if that rumor got started because a few people had too much fun with their tuning software and Ford got tired of footing the bill for modified cars.


All mfgrs are at war with the aftermarket. Unapproved tunes damage a ton of cars these days and they are taking many different steps to protect themselves.

Absolutely no aftermarket supplier sweats the details like the OEM does with extensive testing that is simply too costly for the tuner folks...

Newer ECMS detect being reflashed, and have permanent codes that can't be erased. The Mitsubishi Evo X is that way.

That in mind, if the car was unmodified, it makes no sense to exclude the turbos from warranty. I doubt any factory turbo cars would get popular if people were paying huge prices to repair low mileage cars.


Actually a reflash can be detected in most PCM's even without special programming designed to detect them. But few stealerships have the time or the expertise and equipment required. They're just not looking.

Many times when reflash is suspected they send the PCM out for inspection, most of the time they simply are unaware. But the trend is definitely towards encryption, and that takes time and resources that are beyond most of the aftermarket...

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Many times when reflash is suspected they send the PCM out for inspection, most of the time they simply are unaware. But the trend is definitely towards encryption, and that takes time and resources that are beyond most of the aftermarket...


Yeah, that's true, but there are clever ways that the aftermarket has been able to get around encryption. I believe APR, which is arguably the leading entity in VW/Audi tuning, physically modifies the ECUs.

Obviously if Volkswagen wants to see if a car has been tuned all they have to do is open the ECU, but a lot (most/many?) of dealerships are generally unconcerned with APRs product as they have a reputation for having a very high quality product that generally does not cause issues.

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: RISUPERCREWMAN
I personally would Not buy any Ecoboost engine. Even the ESP Warranty does Not cover the turbos! That says it all for me!


Apparently your info is wrong.

 

[Schmoe]

Curious as to why you will have "extreme prejudice" against Honda's or Toy's? Lot of us drive Honda's and Toy's and have enjoyed great reliabilities.