PP 5W20 /8077 on oil /06 Charger 5.7L 71897 Mi

[2006_Charger_R/T]

This oil is tough stuff. I had many hard accelerations in these 8,000 miles. Lots and Lots of highway traffic.



Black Stone Comments
The multitude of highway miles have treated your engine right. This oil was run about 1,200 miles longer than the previous fill, yet wear changed very little and even improved at iron. That's a good sign that no problems are developing and since the TBN was still okay at 2.0, we think your could have even gone longer. Insolubles were fine at 0.3%, so the oil filter was doing a nice job at keeping up with oil oxidation and blow-by. Still no fuel dilution or anti-freeze present. Try going up to 9,000 miles on the next oil if you are on the highway a lot, else go 8,500 miles.


Data

Oil Brand---------PP--------PP--------PP--------PP--------PP--------PP
Oil Vis-----------5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20
Oil Filter--------Wix-------Wix-------Wix-------Wix-------Wix-------Wix

MI/HR-ON-OIL------8,077-----6,831-----7,187-----6,864-----5,787-----5,232
MI/HR-ON-UNIT-----71,897----63,820----56,989----49,802----42,938----37,151
SAMPLE-DATE-------09/05/08--06/01/08--02/24/08--11/18/07--09/28/07--07/18/07

ALUMINUM----------2---------1---------2---------2---------2---------1
CHROMIUM----------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1
IRON--------------10--------11--------13--------7---------9---------12
COPPER------------19--------15--------15--------19--------24--------25
LEAD--------------1---------1---------1---------1---------0---------0
TIN---------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
MOLYBDENUM--------49--------55--------47--------50--------53--------52
NICKEL------------0---------1---------1---------1---------0---------0
MANGANESE---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
SILVER------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
TITANIUM----------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
POTASSIUM---------3---------1---------0---------2---------1---------1
BORON-------------25--------34--------28--------28--------28--------31
SILICON-----------10--------8---------8---------7---------7---------7
SODIUM------------7---------6---------7---------5---------8---------8
CALCIUM-----------3074------3270------3310------2911------2965------2773
MAGNESIUM---------15--------14--------12--------14--------18--------11
PHOSPHORUS--------680-------715-------664-------652-------651-------617
ZINC--------------827-------885-------811-------794-------793-------750
BARIUM------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0

SUS-VIS@210F------54.7------53.5------52.0------54.0------55.1------53.1
cSt-VIS@100c------8.96------8.32------7.89------8.49------8.79------8.20
FLASHPOINT-IN-F---410-------410-------385-------390-------405-------410
FUEL%------------- ANTIFREEZE%-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0
WATER%------------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0
INSOLUBLES%-------0.3-------0.2-------0.3-------0.3-------0.3-------0.2

TBN---------------2.0-------3.4-------3.3-------4.7-------5.3-------3.7

 

[Johnny]

Very good. Any oil consumption?

 

[sunfire]

POTASSIUM and COPPER levels look OK?

 

[2006_Charger_R/T]

Originally Posted By: Johnny
Very good. Any oil consumption?


I added .5Qt about 3000 miles before I changed and sampled the oil.

 

[GordoW]

Pardon my ignorance....what is PP?

 

[Saturn_Fan]

Originally Posted By: GordoW
Pardon my ignorance....what is PP?


Pennzoil Platinum= PP
Royal Purple= RP
Pennzoil Conventional= YB
Mobil 1=
Fram= [censored]

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

Originally Posted By: Saturn_Fan
Originally Posted By: GordoW
Pardon my ignorance....what is PP?


Pennzoil Platinum= PP
Royal Purple= RP
Pennzoil Conventional= YB
Mobil 1=
Fram= [censored]


Why does everyone hate on Fram so much?! Data to back it up please? Convert me to a hater.

 

[Johnny]

They don't like the price and they don't like the fiber end caps inside the filters.

 

[dkryan]

2006.......:

Any additives used during these OCIs? I ask because of the copper levels.

 

[Gary Allan]

I'm actually surprised that you aren't showing even more life in the stuff. You're doing 7-8k every 3 months. On a 5.5day week that's a whole lot of steady state driving. But it surely looks like 10k is doable here. It would throw you out of your 3month OCI and into a 4 month OCI.

I don't know the engine well enough to figure if the copper is common or not (nice format, btw, but you forgot the UA's)

 

[FZ1]

Change it out every 8k and save the uoa money.

 

[2006_Charger_R/T]

Originally Posted By: dkryan
2006.......:

Any additives used during these OCIs? I ask because of the copper levels.


No additives. Do you think the copper is high?

 

[2006_Charger_R/T]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
...btw, but you forgot the UA's)


Hi. what's "UA's"?

 

[Pesca]

UA = Universal Average

It is the average numbers from the same engine, about same OCI they have in their database.

It is a good start to compare your engine and see if it is in range with the others or better, or worse.

 

[2006_Charger_R/T]

Originally Posted By: Pesca
UA = Universal Average

It is the average numbers from the same engine, about same OCI they have in their database.

It is a good start to compare your engine and see if it is in range with the others or better, or worse.


Thanks. Here it is with the UA

Data

Oil Brand---------UA--------PP--------PP--------PP--------PP--------PP
Oil Vis---------------------5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20-----5w/20
Oil Filter------------------Wix-------Wix-------Wix-------Wix-------Wix

MI/HR-ON-OIL----------------8,077-----6,831-----7,187-----6,864-----5,787
MI/HR-ON-UNIT---------------71,897----63,820----56,989----49,802----42,938
SAMPLE-DATE-----------------09/05/08--06/01/08--02/24/08--11/18/07--09/28/07

ALUMINUM----------2---------2---------1---------2---------2---------2
CHROMIUM----------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1
IRON--------------18--------10--------11--------13--------7---------9
COPPER------------42--------19--------15--------15--------19--------24
LEAD--------------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------0
TIN---------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
MOLYBDENUM--------76--------49--------55--------47--------50--------53
NICKEL------------1---------0---------1---------1---------1---------0
MANGANESE---------1---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
SILVER------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
TITANIUM----------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0
POTASSIUM---------2---------3---------1---------0---------2---------1
BORON-------------44--------25--------34--------28--------28--------28
SILICON-----------8---------10--------8---------8---------7---------7
SODIUM------------20--------7---------6---------7---------5---------8
CALCIUM-----------2240------3074------3270------3310------2911------2965
MAGNESIUM---------79--------15--------14--------12--------14--------18
PHOSPHORUS--------655-------680-------715-------664-------652-------651
ZINC--------------801-------827-------885-------811-------794-------793
BARIUM------------0---------0---------0---------0---------0---------0

SUS-VIS@210F----------------54.7------53.5------52.0------54.0------55.1
cSt-VIS@100c----------------8.96------8.32------7.89------8.49------8.79
FLASHPOINT-IN-F-------------410-------410-------385-------390-------405
FUEL%----------------------- ANTIFREEZE%-----------------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0
WATER%----------------------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0-------0.0
INSOLUBLES%-----------------0.3-------0.2-------0.3-------0.3-------0.3

TBN-------------------------2.0-------3.4-------3.3-------4.7-------5.3

 

[Pesca]

Now you can see that you are doing better than the average owner of this type of engine with less iron and half copper.

That is an excellent result, congratulations. You are taking good care of your investment.