Wally out of Platinum 5W-20 so I got their regular full synthetic for my 2010 MDX. Have been using M1 EP for years but wanted to get $25 rebate. Will my X know the difference?
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nope. as per your owners manual:
"You may use a synthetic motor oil if it meets the same requirements given for a conventional motor oil: it displays the API Certification Seal and it is the proper weight. You must follow the oil and filter change intervals shown on the multi-information display."
No fancy Dexos1 Gen2 or other approvals needed
FYI the current $25 rebate or 10 quarts rebate only applies to Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra Platinum. It does not apply to Pennzoil Full Synthetic
"You may use a synthetic motor oil if it meets the same requirements given for a conventional motor oil: it displays the API Certification Seal and it is the proper weight. You must follow the oil and filter change intervals shown on the multi-information display."
No fancy Dexos1 Gen2 or other approvals needed
FYI the current $25 rebate or 10 quarts rebate only applies to Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra Platinum. It does not apply to Pennzoil Full Synthetic
Thx, yeah I know about the Platinum. Got a jug for my Lexus ES and will get another jug of Platinum for the rebate once it gets restocked.
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What exactly is the difference between the two? Is one a regular group 3 crude, while the other is a group 3 GTL?
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If your X finds out she'll go to court and demand any savings.
Sometimes it does read the conditions of the rebate. Sometimes some retailers are left off the approval list. Me my best prices have normally come from Walmart!
I did look quickly but I'll look more thoroughly in a little while.
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VTEC will kick in earlier.
It's really strange that the Acura MDX is backspeced for 2003-2006 but not 2007-2011 for 0W-20. It makes me suspicious that Honda may have been concerned viscosity was marginal in that engine and the potential for additional shearing was unacceptable.
Pennzoil Platinum = GTL
Pennzoil Full Synthetic = Quaker State Full Synthetic
PFS and QSFS may be either regular GIII or GTL whichever is most practical for Shell at the time.
I would equate PFS with Mobil Super Synthetic.
Do you have evidence of this, or is this speculation based on tech sheets, SDS and cheap, mail-in oil analyses?
In my more than decade of employment at P-QS, the requirement for distribution centers and delivery trucks was that every time any pipe or hose switched from containing one brand to the other, a minimum of several gallons had to be pumped through and discarded to flush the line. This wouldn't be done with equal products. There was one product that was the same for both brands, but it wasn't an engine oil. That product, and all other products of similar types, had their own separate, dedicated bulk systems.
Pennzoil (or any blender) is free to interchange base stocks per API Annex E and still keep their current API license. It's mostly centered around a minimum required viscosity index along with saturates and sulfur content. Either a conventional or GTL hydrocracked base stock can meet those requirements.
Of course, but how does that make one product "=" to another? I know that wasn't your assertion.
All it means is that within the confines of what Annex E addresses the resulting formulated oil will be functionally equivalent.
I meant equivalent. It was in reference to the later statement that they are both their budget line synthetics that may or may not contain GTL but are not really claimed to. I've seen QSFS show up much thinner on a VOA (similar to PFS) compared to the PDS. I suspect it either had a large inclusion of GTL or the same base oil blend as PFS. Who knows? But Shell is free to do either or something else entirely. Platinum on the other hand has a claim on the label that it is GTL based and I will take them at their word.
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