I'm sure Helium is safer, but it will leak out quickly. Helium is about the best gas you can use for finding leaks. I've used it in the past for leak detection equipment. The molecules are very small. It would be interesting to see how fast it leaked out.
Nitrogen Tire Fill
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I'm sure Helium is safer, but it will leak out quickly. Helium is about the best gas you can use for finding leaks. I've used it in the past for leak detection equipment. The molecules are very small. It would be interesting to see how fast it leaked out.
Even if they charged $5 for all 4 tires on your car, its not worth the money.
I looked into the Nitrogen fill station........whooaaaa.
Over $5000.00!!! I thought I could add it to my shop and give another type of service...for get it.
From what I have been reading on my GL1800 forums...it is not worth it.
http://www.soslube.com/tire
Over $5000.00!!! I thought I could add it to my shop and give another type of service...for get it.
From what I have been reading on my GL1800 forums...it is not worth it.
http://www.soslube.com/tire
Typically closer to 95% with on-site membrane generators.
http://www.southteksystems.com/TireBlast_Nitrogen_Tire_filling.asp
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Hydrogen is a tiny molecule that is hard to contain. Explosive issue aside, I would expect it to leak out rather quickly.
Put hydrogen in the tires? Sure. While you're at it, just stencil "Hindenburg" across the back of your bumper. That might keep the tailgaters away, as an added benefit.
The only benefit of the use of nitrogen in auto tires is that it will not support combustion and is therefore a deterent to fire....pretty far fetched reason for road use.
right 95% pure not sure why I typed 99% up there.
The cost of the machine is expensive but there is no operating cost except electricity right ?
I think its better used as a value adder
as in they do it for free if you buy the tires from them
or something.
or maybe a small fee 30$ is bend me over harsh pricing
The cost of the machine is expensive but there is no operating cost except electricity right ?
I think its better used as a value adder
as in they do it for free if you buy the tires from them
or something.
or maybe a small fee 30$ is bend me over harsh pricing
Well - there are some systems out there that use actual nitrogen tanks. Just connect a liquid nitrogen tank to the system and get new ones delivered regularly like bottled water. I guess the biggest problem is matching supply with demand. There was a sperm bank next door to where I worked, and they would get all sorts of compressed liquid tanks delivered on a regular basis. The on-site generators are on-demand systems that generally fill the compressor tank with enough nitrogen to fill several vehicles.
The nitrogen generator equipment needs to be tested on a regular basis. The membrane probably needs to be replaced after some time (sort of like a reverse osmosis water filter).
Costco tire departments aren't charging extra for this. Over the long haul, I don't get why anyone should bend over and take it to the tune of $30 every time tires need to be filled. I've got a $10 Schwinn brand bicycle pump and bring it out every month or so. I also get the exercise as a value added bonus.
Kestas
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I wonder if the same shops that use dry nitrogen to fill tires also use water-based lube to mount the tires? What happens to the water when the tire is mounted? I doubt they mount the tires dry.
I use nitrogen.I have a friend in the business and have a 11 gal tank to top off with which works for me.
Without any tank to top off,it's not worth running to get a lb or two of nitrogen.
The only advantage I feel is the holding air pressure longer and that's a fact.
Without any tank to top off,it's not worth running to get a lb or two of nitrogen.
The only advantage I feel is the holding air pressure longer and that's a fact.
Originally Posted By: Jim 5
I wonder if this is the solution to air pressure differential by cold weather.
All the guys at my office with Acura TL's are complaining about their tire pressure sensors going haywire today. It is -24C here, and the cold weather must be causing a decrease in tire pressure.
Anybody have any knowledge as to whether this problem would be solved by nitrogen?
On the other hand, remembering back to jr. high school science class, isn't air something like 78% nitrogen already?
I did this to my TL because I was seeing huge pressure differences with changing temps. It took the swing from ~6psi cold to hot to ~5psi difference. There could've been other factors too, it might not have made any difference. Definately not worth it.
I wonder if this is the solution to air pressure differential by cold weather.
All the guys at my office with Acura TL's are complaining about their tire pressure sensors going haywire today. It is -24C here, and the cold weather must be causing a decrease in tire pressure.
Anybody have any knowledge as to whether this problem would be solved by nitrogen?
On the other hand, remembering back to jr. high school science class, isn't air something like 78% nitrogen already?
I did this to my TL because I was seeing huge pressure differences with changing temps. It took the swing from ~6psi cold to hot to ~5psi difference. There could've been other factors too, it might not have made any difference. Definately not worth it.
These posts make my brain hurt.
Most of you havn't got a clue. Nitrogen in Mazda 626 turbo and Outback. Pressure check (free at people who ut the Nitrogen (Bob Jane for Oz BITOGER's) on Mazda Last week after 4 months!! Two still spot on at 40 front and 36 rear. One front down a massive 1 psi yes 1 psi to 39 psi and a left rear down 2 psi to 36 psi. Top up free. I'll stick with nitrogen as do most of my car savvy friends. Not having to worry about low tire pressues is great, cooler running and constant pressures is a bonus.
My head!!!
IMO it is silly because instead of firing up the compresser to add air you have to go to the tire shop.
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
My head!!!
It's the Nitrogen AJ, it's building up pressure in your head because it won't leak out.
My head!!!
It's the Nitrogen AJ, it's building up pressure in your head because it won't leak out.
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