Least stinky TCW-3

[JHZR2]

I once bought a gallon of supertech TCW-3 (sealed). It stunk, stunk like half-burned diesel fuel. Yuck.

Pennzoil is much better but still has some of that odor.

I dont recall if Amsoil Saber 100:1 TCW-3 has any odor at all. It may not.

Opened a bottle of Texaco TCW-3, and it had zero odor.

Since I like to keep a bottle in my car as part of my additive rotation, it is nice to have a TCW-3 that doesnt stink.

Anyone know of others? My biggest issue is finding the Texaco stuff where it doesnt cost an arm and a leg.

 

[Bluestream]

The two types of detergents/dispersants most commonly used in 2-stoke oil formations are Ashless and Low Ash. Medium Ash and High Ash detergents are not used in 2-stoke oils. Ashless detergents are used in low temperature applications such as TCW3 oils where the ring land temperature is held below 300 deg/f. Ashless detergents are manufactured form organic nitrogen compounds (Hydrazine) instead of heavy metal compounds; therefore, they produce no ash as they are burned away. This is where the name “Ashless” comes from. Oils containing this type detergent have a characteristic Ammonia odor.

You could buy some Ipone; it smells like Strawberries...

 

[rjacket]

Supertech Mercon V is similarily disgusting.

I'm wondering whether it serves as a good olfactory indicator for blind motorists who can't see when the dye is losing it's redness.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Ashless detergents are manufactured form organic nitrogen compounds (Hydrazine) instead of heavy metal compounds; therefore, they produce no ash as they are burned away. This is where the name “Ashless” comes from. Oils containing this type detergent have a characteristic Ammonia odor.


Thanks!

This is good to know since I just bought a gallon of the Red Line Watercraft Injection TCW-3, and it has that characteristic ammonia-like smell which gets even stronger when mixed with their SL-1 fuel system additive.

 

[chevrofreak]

Many inexpensive TC-W3 oils contain large amounts of solvents. Super Tech, according to its MSDS was 60% solvent. A good ester based synthetic will have no solvents, and as such will have a more pleasant aroma. Without the solvents they can often be run at lower concentration with just as much benefit.

 

[Bluestream]

If it was 60% solvent, I don't think it would be doing much lubricating...

 

[edhackett]

It's covered in the ratios. A 100% oil mixed at 100:1 and the same oil cut 50% with solvent mixed at 50:1 result in the same oil:gas ratio.

Ed

 

[Bluestream]

SInce most 2-stroke engines are oil injected, how would the oil pump know to adjust ratios for oil with 60% solvents?

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: Bluestream
SInce most 2-stroke engines are oil injected, how would the oil pump know to adjust ratios for oil with 60% solvents?


They are set for solvent based oil. Some injectors have adjustments you can make. I think Johnson had one that would change the amount of oil the engine used depending on engine load. The 100:1 Amsoil might be too thick to pump through some oil injection systems.

 

[morris]

selling (Hydrazine) to the public? sounds like a red flag to me.

 

[mechtech2]

If you keep it in the car, just put the cap back on the bottle.
A closed bottle wont smell.

 

[Loobed]

I just opened a bottle of Lucas semi-synthetic 2 stroke oil that I got for 50 cent (I paid 50 cents, I didn't buy it for that rapper dude). It did not smell at all. It was a translucent green. Almost like dark olive oil.

 

[tom slick]

Burn Blendzall 2-stroke oil. Everything about it smells good!

 

[SOHCman]

I just started to use Pennzoil full Syn TCW-3 in my fuel, it smells like play-dough??

I was using Pennzoil conventional multi-purpose TCW-3 before that, and it smells like petrolium, but not really that bad.

They both look the same, but very different smell.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: SOHCman
I just started to use Pennzoil full Syn TCW-3 in my fuel, it smells like play-dough??



Where does everyone find this stuff??!

Is it ONLY on the shelves of marine/boating suppliers? (I've NEVER seen it at an auto supply/parts place, anywhere!)

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: SOHCman
I just started to use Pennzoil full Syn TCW-3 in my fuel, it smells like play-dough??



Where does everyone find this stuff??!

Is it ONLY on the shelves of marine/boating suppliers? (I've NEVER seen it at an auto supply/parts place, anywhere!)


Some Walmarts have/had it.

 

[ltslimjim]

I've only seen TC-W3 in a syn-blend at auto part stores and walmart , look through ALL isles near their RV/boating/fishing area, etc.

example of TC-W3

 

[rufushusky]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: SOHCman
I just started to use Pennzoil full Syn TCW-3 in my fuel, it smells like play-dough??



Where does everyone find this stuff??!

Is it ONLY on the shelves of marine/boating suppliers? (I've NEVER seen it at an auto supply/parts place, anywhere!)


Advance Auto will have it usually, a few months ago one by a job I was on had it for like 9-10 bucks a gallon but I believe that was a sale.

 

[mongo161]

AZ carries Pennzoil Marine, TC-W3 along with other brands. I'm sure the other Auto Parts stores also have it available.

WM carries it in the automotive and in the "Outdoor Sports" section for boating supplies.

 

[Dupree]

I've always liked the quicksilver semi-synthetic. I don't really use it often in my cars. But my boat sure likes it