The new ones aren't cheap at all, in fact they're as expensive now as the top Japanese makes. I'd still take a Toyota/Honda/Mazda any day over either of the Korean makes...
kia engine issues...really serious or overinflated?
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Why tempt fate by buying a H/Kia? Not for me.
If they only invested in engineering as much as in design.
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That sounds like an apt metaphor, lol
I think a lot of people mistakenly believe they're still less expensive than the the Japanese makes...or that they're just as good, which is also not true...
That's their big selling point. They design their models with very modern looks, and they have people believing they're as good as the Japanese makes, which they aren't...
And so many models even the original cheap woman not falling for that
Is that 2.4l the GEMA Chrysler/Hyundai/Mitsu engine? I'm just curious why you don't really hear of these same problems in the FCA and Mitsu vehicles?
The GEMA joint venture engine was the engine before the Theta II
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We have an '08 Spectra which I believe is a 2l Beta II. It has been extremely reliable. I've changed the timing belt and water pump for maint. Never have had an issue with it, and it doesn't even leak a drop of oil after all of these years.
Having owned an Elantra with the Beta engine I agree it was a good one. The 3.3 and 3.8 are known to be good also. It's the lastest 2.4 that's been the most problematic and I've read that the 2.0 can be hit or miss. The strange thing is that the 2.4 was a very good engine up until 2011 which is when I believe they went to GDI. IDK if there were other significant changes on the 2011 but the 2008, 2009 and 2010 Sonata with the 2.4 were long lived (I've seen one with 400K).
Just before the spike in used car prices I helped my b-i-l find a 2008 Sonata with low miles (58K). He has put over 80K trouble free miles on it and would probably still get what he paid for it. He uses 5w30 synthetic @ 7 to 8K OCIs and might have to add 6 or 8 ounces after 5K to keep it at the top line on the dipstick.
Having said this I agree with those who say "why take a chance on a H/K especially since they aren't cheap anymore"....that's why I advised my daughter to buy a Mazda CX-30 over a Kona/Seltos.
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I had a 2013 Hyundai GT with the 1.8 motor. It had a loud piston slap noise about 1/2 the time. I sold it at 88k trouble free miles. I did bring it to a Hyundai dealer and they said the noise was "normal." I made sure that the notes indicated the noise I was hearing. A TSB was later released...
My parents have a 2012 Sonata with 250k miles. Zero issues except maybe a wheel bearing or two. He also towed a trailer a bunch with it.
My parents have a 2012 Sonata with 250k miles. Zero issues except maybe a wheel bearing or two. He also towed a trailer a bunch with it.
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nhsta is looking into the 3.3 as of yesterday according to carscoops.
I guess bunch of anecdotes means something
I guess bunch of anecdotes means something
It’s interesting though
50 years ago what we call MTTF was the norm. If you got 100K pretty amazing
50 years ago what we call MTTF was the norm. If you got 100K pretty amazing
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An owner of a 2017 Hyundai Santa Fe, Jasmine Jewell, submitted the petition to the NHTSA. In her letter, Jewell recounts the engine failure of her SUV at 61,413 miles. Despite reaching out to four Hyundai dealerships in Rhode Island, she discovered they were all inundated with vehicles needing engine replacements.
Consequently, she had to tow her vehicle to a dealer in Massachusetts, where she was promptly informed that a new engine was necessary. The quoted cost for a replacement was $19,997, excluding labor charges
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Consequently, she had to tow her vehicle to a dealer in Massachusetts, where she was promptly informed that a new engine was necessary. The quoted cost for a replacement was $19,997, excluding labor charges
NHTSA Looking Into Claim That Hyundai's 3.3-Liter V6 Is Prone To Failing | Carscoops
The filing asserts the brand's 3.3-liter V6 is prone to engine knocking and seizure
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