Giving in itself is something. I too was impressed. Really, I cracked a lot of jokes about her based on her guitar playing ablility, that's it. Not her looks, persona, etc. Like I said, to see a girl at work talk about TS all day long, I came to realize they love this artist, every bit as I do The JGB or the Grateful Dead.Let’s keep it simple you say Taylor Swift based on Forbes is going to make $340 million this year and this year alone on one tour she just gave away $55 million in bonuses you figure out the percentage.
Once you do that, then, throw in the other donations she made two in the year as well as time spent, and figure that into your percentage as well.
Bringing up somebody’s net worth, and all the years that they have worked as well as investments, and unrealized gains is nothing more than to create a frivolous debate.
I can’t even believe I’m debating this based on made up numbers to support an argument on what somebody else should be giving away
I’m done.
Agree, well said and thanks for reminding me, I pushed a lot to the side this year in the move to our new house. St. Judes Children's Hospital was my annual donation. I got turned onto them when a young co-worker (newly weds) of mine some years back and his wife, also a co-worker of mine, just bought their first house. Two of Greatest people on this planet, killed on their motorcycle when a "non citizen" without a license ran a stop sign. HE was DOA on the scene, she was thrown so far they found her screaming in a field with her feet gone. A good samaritan found her and asked if she believed in god. Her heart stopped I think five times on the way to the Hospital and died when she got there.Giving in itself is something. I too was impressed. Really, I cracked a lot of jokes about her based on her guitar playing ablility, that's it. Not her looks, persona, etc. Like I said, to see a girl at work talk about TS all day long, I came to realize they love this artist, every bit as I do The JGB or the Grateful Dead.
When one is in the spotlight, they're always going to be targets. I used PK Subban as an example when he gave a year's salary to the Children's Hospital. What about Bloomberg? He gave from memory over 4 billion to Johns Hopkins. I'm sure he's criticized for that.
Take shots at me, anyone. I gave $40 to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. I feel it's fine, there's no motive behind it. I'm sure they were glad to take it and combine it with other random gifts in that amount. They're not naming a wing after me, but every now and then they send me those stickers with my return address, that I can use at Christmas time withe cards....
Man, same happened to my friend's sister and niece in El Monte, CA (drunk driver, both in cars, former not legally in US). Niece was a senior in HS and bound for college.Agree, well said and thanks for reminding me, I pushed a lot to the side this year in the move to our new house. St. Judes Children's Hospital was my annual donation. I got turned onto them when a young co-worker (newly weds) of mine some years back and his wife, also a co-worker of mine, just bought their first house. Two of Greatest people on this planet, killed on their motorcycle when a "non citizen" without a license ran a stop sign. HE was DOA on the scene, she was thrown so far they found her screaming in a field with her feet gone. A good samaritan found her and asked if she believed in god. Her heart stopped I think five times on the way to the Hospital and died when she got there.
Anyway...gosh all I meant to say was at the funeral the families asked in lu of flowers they would appreciate donations to ST Judes because the couple always lit up the lives of young kids and that is when I learned the wonderful things the children hospitals do.
Your right, dollar amounts dont matter if everyone gives what makes them feel good because we have hundreds of millions of people in the USA>
What could she or any other artist do ? You're suggesting someone (the gov't) put price controls in place, i.e. only allow some maximum mark-up ? Forbid reselling tickets ? I bet you wouldn't like that if you bought tickets and something came up that prevented you from going and now you can't re-sell the tickets. As you said, it's capitalism....If she really wanted to do something impressive it would be to take $55 million and spend it towards some type of solution to the ticket price gouging that goes on by scalpers and third party resellers.
Look at the Grateful Dead and tickets after 1987. The issue is nothing new.If she really wanted to do something impressive it would be to take $55 million and spend it towards some type of solution to the ticket price gouging that goes on by scalpers and third party resellers.
When a major act like Swift or Elton John announce a tour and tickets go on sale it is next to impossible to buy tickets at anywhere near face value. The artists see none of that additional markup. Buy somebody is making major cash from the reselling and fans who could afford maybe a $60-$100 ticket are out of luck when tickets are $1000 and more.
Yes, it is capitalism. And the days of seeing a double bill with Jethro Tull and Led Zeppelin for $4.50 are long gone. But there is also something very, very wrong with the way tiokets are making their way into the hands of the general public too. And probably because of huge campaign donations going from those companies who are making a fortune on reselling to politicians who suppress any kind of legislation that would even the playing field.
Why?If she really wanted to do something impressive it would be to take $55 million and spend it towards some type of solution to the ticket price gouging that goes on by scalpers and third party resellers.
When a major act like Swift or Elton John announce a tour and tickets go on sale it is next to impossible to buy tickets at anywhere near face value. The artists see none of that additional markup. Buy somebody is making major cash from the reselling and fans who could afford maybe a $60-$100 ticket are out of luck when tickets are $1000 and more.
Yes, it is capitalism. And the days of seeing a double bill with Jethro Tull and Led Zeppelin for $4.50 are long gone. But there is also something very, very wrong with the way tiokets are making their way into the hands of the general public too. And probably because of huge campaign donations going from those companies who are making a fortune on reselling to politicians who suppress any kind of legislation that would even the playing field.
How about the Dead allowing recording since day 1. And if not mistaken, Pearl Jam did the same. Record producer’s nightmare.Why?
You cant expect artists to now control and be CEOs of all the stadium and ticketing process in the country. Why leave Pro-Sports out of this too?
Yay for Jethro Tull and Led Zeppelin though! OMG, those days produced real productions. I do have to give TS credit as she is involved deeply with her music (even though I dont listen to her) and lyrics and not just any pop tart being handed material and becoming famous.
My only disagreement with you (because you have great taste in music) is I am a strong believer in free markets, it's really the basis of freedom. Going to a concert is not a life and death matter and I trust no one (forbidden subject) to regulate. Though I have NO PROBLEM breaking up monopolies !
That’s a far cry from TS making bank on the backs of her staff a
What could she or any other artist do ? You're suggesting someone (the gov't) put price controls in place, i.e. only allow some maximum mark-up ? Forbid reselling tickets ? I bet you wouldn't like that if you bought tickets and something came up that prevented you from going and now you can't re-sell the tickets. As you said, it's capitalism....
At first it was really nice when I started to get them. Then you start to understand the psychology of bonuses. A friend of mine is an attorney at a large firm. His bonus is about 100% of his salary. The bonus pays out in April for the previous year and you have to employed there to receive it. It makes it painful to quit the firm.Imagine if all companies gave their employees nice bonuses.....
Unfortunately you’re not comprehending the point relative to the comment that it was in response to.This is really an out of touch comment. Every business and business owner makes money "off the backs of their staff." Those staff also receive compensation - That's how it works. If that business wasn't started by someone at some point, those people would be doing something else, or maybe even nothing.
This is even more extreme in the case of a huge entertainer. Hundreds if not thousands of people are employed because some kid decided one day to pick up a guitar. Not to mention all the economic benefit to the cities they perform in and all the businesses involved in that.
A major reason behind bonuses, especially end-of-year or "Christmas" bonuses is for one reason - reducing NET profit. There's always a benefit to the company !At first it was really nice when I started to get them. Then you start to understand the psychology of bonuses.
On one hand, no one should be surprised that if you quit/leave, you probably won't get a previous year's bonus payout. On the other hand, a truly ethical business would pay it since it was earned while still employed. Do attorneys have "employment contracts" with the firm they work for ? Don't know if that's standard or not.... If I had one, I'd amend it to make sure I still got that bonus whether I left or not.The bonus pays out in April for the previous year and you have to employed there to receive it.
A major reason behind bonuses, especially end-of-year or "Christmas" bonuses is for one reason - reducing NET profit. There's always a benefit to the company !
On one hand, no one should be surprised that if you quit/leave, you probably won't get a previous year's bonus payout. On the other hand, a truly ethical business would pay it since it was earned while still employed. Do attorneys have "employment contracts" with the firm they work for ? Don't know if that's standard or not.... If I had one, I'd amend it to make sure I still got that bonus whether I left or not.
Let's be clear, Taylor Swift gave out roughly 55 million dollars who were not employees of hers but worked for companies on her tour.Unfortunately you’re not comprehending the point relative to the comment that it was in response to.
All of a sudden Jeff Bezos was intermingled into this because he gave $100M to Maui. Remember that post that I was replying to??!?
And the point I made, that the attempt to compare the two was apples to oranges?
One was a humanitarian gift, regardless of how or where JB got his money. One was a bonus given to specific workers who were part of the TS tour.
Both are gifts, there isn’t really any other comparison. That was the point, and really the only point.
Do you deny that TS was giving a bonus to her tour workers who labored to create a $1B tour that she is earning hundreds of millions from? Do you deny that JB donating $100M as humanitarian aid has nothing to do with the people of Maui being employees? If both of those are true (they are; there really isn’t any basis of argument there), then there’s no out of touch because that was the point of the comments.
What is this profit that you speak of? I've never worked for a profitable company in my career. Kind of crazy when you think of it.A major reason behind bonuses, especially end-of-year or "Christmas" bonuses is for one reason - reducing NET profit. There's always a benefit to the company !
On one hand, no one should be surprised that if you quit/leave, you probably won't get a previous year's bonus payout. On the other hand, a truly ethical business would pay it since it was earned while still employed. Do attorneys have "employment contracts" with the firm they work for ? Don't know if that's standard or not.... If I had one, I'd amend it to make sure I still got that bonus whether I left or not.