Heads are Rolling at VW

[dishdude]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.


Really? Spiraling towards third world status?

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: dishdude


Really? Spiraling towards third world status?


Really, the only thing that appears to say otherwise is wall street, which is in its own world.

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.


So what we need is a less disagreeable to many, but not to you, Hitler to make us prosper?

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.


Really? Spiraling towards third world status?


Not that I want to agree with the guy but he's right.

Look at the nation as a whole,compared to 30 years ago.
Industry is all offshore now. There is very little skilled work out there anymore.
All this illegal immigration has devastated wages because any labour type work is being done by illegals for cash wages.
In fact the only real employer out there is the government or wal-mart. All tech is manufactured overseas even though a lot of the development is done here.
Third world might be a slight exaggeration however if you look closely it's definitely leading that way.

 

[dishdude]

Originally Posted By: BRZED
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.


So what we need is a less disagreeable to many, but not to you, Hitler to make us prosper?

It's often said that all this country needs is a man like Hitler to make us prosper. Where have you been?

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.


So what we need is a less disagreeable to many, but not to you, Hitler to make us prosper?

It's often said that all this country needs is a man like Hitler to make us prosper. Where have you been?


Yemen. I'm completely out of touch.

 

[Benito]

 

[BRZED]

Benito, are you still following me around? Are you learning something? There are no rastafarians in Yemen. It's more like this:

 

[Benito]

Are you still bleating on about that BRZED?

 

[BRZED]

Cute!

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: BRZED


So what we need is a less disagreeable to many, but not to you, Hitler to make us prosper?

No I definitely think more of the decades of globalist mentality from all sides that have power is just what we need, for the US to
become a third world country with certainty.

 

[BRZED]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: BRZED


So what we need is a less disagreeable to many, but not to you, Hitler to make us prosper?

No I definitely think more of the decades of globalist mentality from all sides that have power is just what we need, for the US to
become a third world country with certainty.

So the NWO is our downfall? And do you have any realistic ideas how to solve our demise?

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
Originally Posted By: cjcride
So VW can change the Drivers Wanted to Leader Wanted.


Former leader Winterkorn was busy setting company goals & reading reports.
No matter how many times he might have repeatedly said to Johannes Arning and Thorsten Duesterdiek to avoid any problems that would cost the company billions of bucks, it might just fall on deaf ears.
But lets blame the leader. Why not? Accomplishes nothing.
Truman said: "The buck stops here".

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I think the EPA is out of control anyway. I don't see anything wrong with what Volkswagen has done.

I'd be happy if they got rid of that after treatment bullsnot.

EPA enforces the emission laws passed by Congress and signed by President. They didn't make up their own laws/rules. The maximum fined per violation is the law too.

VW intentionally cheating emission control laws, they will be fined and someone may spend sometimes in jail for it, US Justice Dept opened criminal investigation about this problem. I will not be surprised when they announce some VW employees were indicted.
Not exactly true. The EPA is "empowered" by laws allowing the EPA to make regulations. The same is true of the IRS and other agencies. We see examples of these agencies exceeding their authority and having their chains yanked by the courts from time to time. Louis Lerner comes to mind.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: Jetronic
2.8million was the number in germany alone, I beieve.... with 11 million in all of europe.

and now audi aswell, with 2.1 million cars so far.

Just waiting for confirmation Skoda and Seat are also implicated
And here I thought Audi were the diesel "experts".

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
The irony here is that it is Murican culture that brings the cancer of succeed at any cost into the European business culture which was not practiced prior to WWII. (excluding the UK)

Once you do the deal with the devil (going public) with the stock market you end up with this type of mentality.


This would be an irony were it only true.
European business is every bit as cutthroat as that in the US.
The long-running feud between Winterkorn and the Piech family for control of VW demonstrates this.
The desire to wring profits wherever possible was a feature of European political economy long before the American Republic was born.
Why do you suppose that Britain, France, Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands spent so much money and effort building colonial empires?
I'll give you a clue.
It wasn't to share enlightenment with the heathen.
It was to make money.
Well put and a good response to the America loathers.

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: Joe90_guy
The foundation of The British Empire had nothing to do with money and everything to do with teaching the fuzzy-wuzzies The Rules Of Cricket and how to use the proper knife and fork for eating pheasant. Anyone that says otherwise is an uncivilised heathen!
ROFLMAO!

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: Shark
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel


No, it wasn't at least during modern Europe until after WWII.
Worst thing that ever happened to Europe was the Muricans
bringing their "culture" to the Old World. That comes from
a born and raised Murican. We are seeing the fruits of that
import as we speak, from extremely corrupt business practices, to
multiKult, the destruction of the nation, and the dismissal of REAL culture and heritage, and many other disgusting things.

It honestly makes me sick to my stomach.


This is by far the stupidest post in the entire thread. It sounds much more like Connecticotian, which by definition is very un-"murican." If it were correct logic you would see many of the U.S. auto manufacturers with diesel engines doing the same, the reality is the exact opposite. German culture is regarded as strong and independent. I have an impression of German engineers as being stereotypically arrogant, I expect this is 100% their own doing and not influenced by U.S. capital markets.
+1

 

[HerrStig]

Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: willyreid




Sounds like you really miss the good old days of the National Socialist German Worker's Party heyday before the end of the War, and the arrival of the evil Muricans. The East Germans made out so much better after the War, didn't they?


Actually as much as Hitler was found to be disagreeable to many, Germany was prospering during his early years in power.
Look at the USA today, it isn't getting any better here and in many ways the country is spiraling towards third world status.
German budgets "balanced" back then with piles of gold fillings, ect. A good delusion is a terrible thing to waste.

 

[GiveMeAVowel]

Originally Posted By: HerrStig

German budgets "balanced" back then with piles of gold fillings, ect. A good delusion is a terrible thing to waste.

Proven to be falsehoods, even by the horses mouth.