Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I'd say the A4 is a reliable car. It is Audi's volume seller in Europe so they needed to get this one nearly perfect including making it reliable, and fairly reasonable costs to service and repair.
Actually VW and Audi have come a long way in the past decade.
If they are not right at Hyundai levels of reliability they are darn close. The most important thing that VW and Audi should do to gain the trust of potential new customers is to match Hyundai's warranty terms.
In terms of driving satisfaction most VW/Audi products still far outperform anything from Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota/Lexus at about the same price.
As a tech that has worked on quite a few A4s, newer and older, and other VW/Audi's... no... just no they have not.
VW/Audi "Hey guys we fixed the ignition coil problem... but introduced a horrible direct injection that kills power, gas mileage, and requires expensive work to patch as there is no fix."
Every time a new model comes out its always the same "They fixed all those issues..." yea then they introduce more issues that are harder too fix if they can even be fixed.
The first-gen FSI (direct inject) motors had carbon buildup issues, yes. The new vapor reclamation system they started using a few years ago resolved that. As a sign of good faith, Audi offered extra warranty coverage against the buildup.
Well the DI issue there is no fix so the extra warranty just means you get a extra cleaning before it becomes your problem.
And you have been saying the "vapor reclamation system" fixs the carbon problem since 2013 now. Yet if you read Audi/VW forums users are still reporting issues to this day even with the vapor reclamation system as well now. i.e. "fix" one thing break another.
Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I'd say the A4 is a reliable car. It is Audi's volume seller in Europe so they needed to get this one nearly perfect including making it reliable, and fairly reasonable costs to service and repair.
Actually VW and Audi have come a long way in the past decade.
If they are not right at Hyundai levels of reliability they are darn close. The most important thing that VW and Audi should do to gain the trust of potential new customers is to match Hyundai's warranty terms.
In terms of driving satisfaction most VW/Audi products still far outperform anything from Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota/Lexus at about the same price.
As a tech that has worked on quite a few A4s, newer and older, and other VW/Audi's... no... just no they have not.
VW/Audi "Hey guys we fixed the ignition coil problem... but introduced a horrible direct injection that kills power, gas mileage, and requires expensive work to patch as there is no fix."
Every time a new model comes out its always the same "They fixed all those issues..." yea then they introduce more issues that are harder too fix if they can even be fixed.
The first-gen FSI (direct inject) motors had carbon buildup issues, yes. The new vapor reclamation system they started using a few years ago resolved that. As a sign of good faith, Audi offered extra warranty coverage against the buildup.
Well the DI issue there is no fix so the extra warranty just means you get a extra cleaning before it becomes your problem.
And you have been saying the "vapor reclamation system" fixs the carbon problem since 2013 now. Yet if you read Audi/VW forums users are still reporting issues to this day even with the vapor reclamation system as well now. i.e. "fix" one thing break another.