Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: dr2152
How do you know that one is better made than another? Do you have facts or are you just a pretending to be a bike rider.
I have owned Honda,Yamaha,Kawasaki,BMW,BSA,Triumph,Harley,Jawa,Husqvarna,and Bridgestone motorcycles. All of them had design problems and I do the work on every bike I've owned and do work on friends bikes. I rode a new Goldwing last night and will ride it today as soon as the rain stops. Gas mileage is very low vs the BMW GTL. 30 vs 38 for 250 miles. I rode a new Harley Limited mileage was 39. I'll get a Harley tomorrow again for 2 days.
Wife hated the BMW rear seat position. She said there is no way she can do 500 mile days. Cost to change seats and add GPS to match Honda and Harley would be $1300. Not sure she would like it after I spent the money.
I'll have two 2014 touring bikes in the garage for us to ride. The Limited will need the drivers seat lowered. That's about $150 local. Goldwing will also need the seat lowered so thats $200 local. (bigger seat pan) Limited as a 6 speed but Goldwing has reverse. This is what I've found so far on these 3 touring bikes.
Buy the Harley then...good luck with that...and is there any particular reason you're not considering a Victory?
Rode a Vision and it was ok. Wife didn't like it. Tried to get a Cross Country Tour but no one will let you have one for a full day. I don't know anyone that has one that I can borrow. Price on the Cross Country anniversary is the same as the Goldwing or Limited. Rode a Kingpin and a Vegas years ago.
So why do you hate Harley's? I have two friends on 2010 Limited that have had no problems.
One is at 56k and the other at 95K. When did you last own one or even ride one?
The last one I rode was one of the newer ones, forget which model, but it was a bagger and it had the 103 motor. It seemed plenty comfortable for long trips and such, but power was disappointing, and it handled like a dump truck. I've ridden many Harleys over the years and none of them ever impressed me. They all vibrate like a paint shaker at idle...not bad at any engine speed above idle, but couldn't deal with stuff looking like it was going to fly off the bike when sitting a red lights. I spend most of my free time talking, reading, or experiencing motorcycles in some way, shape, or form and I've seen a lot of all brands of bikes being compared to Harleys. There have been very few that aren't more powerful, or won't outhandle Harleys, and most are just as comfortable or more so. Sure, a person can make Harleys last a long time, but if you're gonna spend that much time in the saddle, why not get something that's just as comfortable, more powerful, and handles better?