Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by P10crew
It's always the same S on here from all the experts but every single one of them completely fail to believe that there is no infrastructure in place for the electric car.
Take a look in the land of the fruits and nuts. SoCal Ed has already told Tesla that they are only allowing 1 super charger per distribution sub station. Now add 2 70 amp chargers in every House on the block that will all be plugged in at 5:30 pm. It ain't going to happen!
You're forgetting a few things.
#1 More employers will offer charging at work.
#2 Almost every new home being built will have a solar array as required by California Building Code.
#3 Not everyone in California gets home at 530.
#4 Peak power demand occurs between 6-10pm. "Smart Chargers" delay or reduce that charging rate until demand subsides.
#5 Battery Storage
Battery storage is primarily designed to, and used to, load shift for residential users. Commercial, it is primarily used for FCAS, which is of absolutely no help if people are trying to charge their cars when they get home. Delaying the charge time only makes sense when traditional night time power is cheap. If the load curve shifts, rates are going to follow it, otherwise, the generators that provide when it isn't windy or sunny will go bankrupt.
Employers aren't going to offer charging at work if it ends up costing them a lot of money, similar to how they don't offer employees free gas. I expect once a road tax is rolled into the kWh's used to charge EV's, we'll see an impact on this.
Every new home with a solar array is just going to exasperate the effects of the duck curve, driving thermals offline during they day and requiring them to grossly increase their night rate to stay viable.
When it isn't sunny or windy, emissions skyrocket as gas fired generation is ramped up to cover the load. Right now, it is both windy, and sunny in California. But it isn't windy or sunny in South Australia, so its power is filthy. Germany, before the sun came up, was very dirty as well, because it isn't windy there either. Even right now, it is close to 200g/kWh.
The only grids on the planet which have consistently low emissions power use hydro and nuclear at high levels of penetration.
Okay. fine, you still must compare the additional emissions from the additional load required for anticipated demand to charge BEV's vs the emissions generated by the vehicle if it were an ICE instead.