Originally Posted by blupupher
Originally Posted by ad244
Its on the bottle on their latest T6 15w-40
No it is not.
Show me where it says Certified (not
meets requirements of) JASO MA/MA2 on the bottle.
Show me the JASO label on the bottle with the JASO number on it.
This is what the bottle says:
And there is no JASO label that would look like this one on Honda oil:
Again, not saying it is not a good oil for motorcycles, because it is, but it is not a certified JASO MA/MA2 oil.
Shell just says it is safe to use in JASO MA/MA2 applications, which we have probably millions of miles on bikes using this oil with no oil related issues.
Those that seem to get their panties in a wad over this need to get over it.
Use it with no concerns, but if you use it and there is any issue that could be even slightly related to oil and bike is under warranty, you are probably out of luck.
Exactly ^^^ Shell has never been published as a Jaso Oil on the Jaso website. Shell does not print the Jaso symbol on its bottles for that reason.
With that said, Jaso states something along the lines of the oil company REGISTERING their oil that it complies with Jaso standards so I am not so sure that Jaso actually tests and "approves" oils vs the companies registering as it meets their requirements.
Either way, Im sure its all good if the oil company is stating it does but I do agree 100% that is it not a Jaso MA oil unless the oil is published on Jasos website and carries the Jaso symbol. I pointed this out many times about Mobile 1 oils too where Valvolines bottles has the actual Jaso symbol on some of their oils, I think the 20/50 or maybe the 10/40 4 stroke ( I forgot which one since my current bike doesnt require it)