dnewton3
Staff member
I think we're nearing a tipping point of where our real world is going to become indistinguishable from make believe ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/the-weekly/deepfake-joe-rogan.html
PLEASE - NOTE - PLEASE
Do not make this about politics. I get it; certainly that is a risk embedded in the topic. But it does not stop at politics. Deep fake tech will eventually lead to credit fraud escalation, purporting crimes onto others directly or indirectly, swatting issues, testimonial statements, etc.
I'm middle-aged. I never grew up with this threat, but it will affect the later stages of my life. And my kids generation (in their 20s) are going to have to solve it. In fact, they are the generation that is creating it. My generation didn't create tech fraud; it wasn't a thing when I was young.
IMO (strictly my opinion) this is a case of unbridled ambition blinding youth from seeing the consequences of their actions. 40 years ago, if I did something impetuous and stupid, it only hurt myself. Now, we as a world society are on the cusp of creating a condition that cannot ever be undone. Once we can "deep fake" with high accuracy, there's no limit to what unscrupulous persons, companies, and governments will do. It has implications from personal relationships in school as adolescents all the way up to geo-wars. Kids already kill themselves at the hands of bullies on FaceBook. Soon we'll be able to make people into things they are not; make them appear to say things they didn't. Not far from now, we'll be able to meld make-believe into our reality with such convincing efforts that we'll no longer be able to discern one from the other.
Sure, we could delay this for a short while with biometric controls. But for biometric tech to work as a source of identity assurance, it has to be cataloged somewhere as a repository for ID confirmation each time a credential is sought to be verified. And how long do we think it will be until that catalog is hacked? How long until the key to the lock is stolen?
In short, IMO, we're screwed, because as a species we cannot control ourselves from leaping before we look. The question of "Can we do this?" get answered way before "Should we do this?"
Here's my question:
What, if anything, can be done to protect ourselves? There's no way to stop this deep fake tech; that is undeniable. So presuming it does happen, what do we do to counter this, if anything exists at all???
What I want to hear about is your well-reasoned ideas or inputs as to what might protect us from our own stupidity? What counter-points can technology make that would keep us safe, if any?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/the-weekly/deepfake-joe-rogan.html
PLEASE - NOTE - PLEASE
Do not make this about politics. I get it; certainly that is a risk embedded in the topic. But it does not stop at politics. Deep fake tech will eventually lead to credit fraud escalation, purporting crimes onto others directly or indirectly, swatting issues, testimonial statements, etc.
I'm middle-aged. I never grew up with this threat, but it will affect the later stages of my life. And my kids generation (in their 20s) are going to have to solve it. In fact, they are the generation that is creating it. My generation didn't create tech fraud; it wasn't a thing when I was young.
IMO (strictly my opinion) this is a case of unbridled ambition blinding youth from seeing the consequences of their actions. 40 years ago, if I did something impetuous and stupid, it only hurt myself. Now, we as a world society are on the cusp of creating a condition that cannot ever be undone. Once we can "deep fake" with high accuracy, there's no limit to what unscrupulous persons, companies, and governments will do. It has implications from personal relationships in school as adolescents all the way up to geo-wars. Kids already kill themselves at the hands of bullies on FaceBook. Soon we'll be able to make people into things they are not; make them appear to say things they didn't. Not far from now, we'll be able to meld make-believe into our reality with such convincing efforts that we'll no longer be able to discern one from the other.
Sure, we could delay this for a short while with biometric controls. But for biometric tech to work as a source of identity assurance, it has to be cataloged somewhere as a repository for ID confirmation each time a credential is sought to be verified. And how long do we think it will be until that catalog is hacked? How long until the key to the lock is stolen?
In short, IMO, we're screwed, because as a species we cannot control ourselves from leaping before we look. The question of "Can we do this?" get answered way before "Should we do this?"
Here's my question:
What, if anything, can be done to protect ourselves? There's no way to stop this deep fake tech; that is undeniable. So presuming it does happen, what do we do to counter this, if anything exists at all???
What I want to hear about is your well-reasoned ideas or inputs as to what might protect us from our own stupidity? What counter-points can technology make that would keep us safe, if any?
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