2021 M2 Competition | TPT LL-01FE | ~3000 miles

[chris719]

I didn't enter the info and this was the first analysis so ignore the comments. Ti is obviously the Castrol additive. Oil was dealer fill TPT 0W-30 LL-01FE. Wear seems a bit high for about 3k miles. Combination of short trips and driven hard (when fully up to temp). Had exhaust side lifters and cam carrier bolts replaced per the common S55 cold start ticking issue about 1000 miles before this was sampled. Look at the viscosity .

VOA (not mine) of the same oil here: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/voa-bmw-twinpower-turbo-ll01fe-0w-30.371957/

Now running M1 0W-40. Will sample again in spring.

 

[fantastic]

How many miles on it? May still be breaking-in or short runs elevating the Al or a combination of both but everything else looks good.

 

[chris719]

How many miles on it? May still be breaking-in or short runs elevating the Al or a combination of both but everything else looks good.

About 9300. Wasn't my daily for a while so it's had oil changes at about 1200 (break in), 3500 (12 months), 6000 (12 months), and 8500 (when I sampled). I changed to M1 0W-40 SP at that change at 8500 miles. A lot of oil changes for 10k miles .

That boron really depleted and the 8.3 cSt might be the lowest I've seen from this oil on UOA. Hoping the M1 0W-40 holds up better.

 

[fantastic]

About 9300. Wasn't my daily for a while so it's had oil changes at about 1200 (break in), 3500 (12 months), 6000 (12 months), and 8500 (when I sampled). I changed to M1 0W-40 SP at that change at 8500 miles. A lot of oil changes for 10k miles .

That boron really depleted and the 8.3 cSt might be the lowest I've seen from this oil on UOA. Hoping the M1 0W-40 holds up better.

With the low mileage there's really no concern with 0w-30. There was still boron left but the 40 will give you a visc. boost to compensate for the fuel at least. I don't know much about BMW's but they sure do have a following. Motor on...

 

[edyvw]

Just stick to regular LL01. M1 0W40 will work.

 

[chris719]

Just stick to regular LL01. M1 0W40 will work.

Yeah, I only use this oil because I want the free oil changes to show in my service history in case there are any warranty claims. I will let them change it the final time next year and drain it shortly thereafter for PP Euro or M1, etc.

 

[edyvw]

Yeah, I only use this oil because I want the free oil changes to show in my service history in case there are any warranty claims. I will let them change it the final time next year and drain it shortly thereafter for PP Euro or M1, etc.

I really like PP Euro bcs. GTL, pour point is low for 5W, or X-Cess. I was more of a fan of M1 in the previous version.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I didn't enter the info and this was the first analysis so ignore the comments. Ti is obviously the Castrol additive. Oil was dealer fill TPT 0W-30 LL-01FE. Wear seems a bit high for about 3k miles. Combination of short trips and driven hard (when fully up to temp). Had exhaust side lifters and cam carrier bolts replaced per the common S55 cold start ticking issue about 1000 miles before this was sampled. Look at the viscosity .

VOA (not mine) of the same oil here: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/voa-bmw-twinpower-turbo-ll01fe-0w-30.371957/

Now running M1 0W-40. Will sample again in spring.

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Q: If you went the full 10k miles and viscosity was fine would you care about temporary shear?

 

[JavierH19]

I'd bump to 40 grade ll-01. Don't care for the fuel economy version.

 

[fantastic]

I really like PP Euro bcs. GTL, pour point is low for 5W, or X-Cess. I was more of a fan of M1 in the previous version.

Quaker State is cheaper & should be GTL too.

 

[CrazyJeeper]

@chris719 here is my UOA for my 2020 M2C running QS Euro 5W-40. It’s my daily, but my commute to work is only 15 minutes away via side streets, plus I work from home one day a week, and I’m also driving a GMC pickup and an old Jeep CJ7 that I rotate here in Southern California. I only had 1,528 miles on the oil over the course of 7 months or so.

In always try to ensure I get my car fully warmed up. Happy with the results, but right now I have X-Cess Gen2 5W-40 in it.

 

[chris719]

Q: If you went the full 10k miles and viscosity was fine would you care about temporary shear?

Is that really temporary? It might thicken as the intervals goes, on but from oxidation? I guess I’d just feel better with something that didn’t look like a 20 at any point. S55 originally was filled and serviced with the short-lived TPT 0W-40.

 

[Brons2]

@chris719 here is my UOA for my 2020 M2C running QS Euro 5W-40. It’s my daily, but my commute to work is only 15 minutes away via side streets, plus I work from home one day a week, and I’m also driving a GMC pickup and an old Jeep CJ7 that I rotate here in Southern California. I only had 1,528 miles on the oil over the course of 7 months or so.

In always try to ensure I get my car fully warmed up. Happy with the results, but right now I have X-Cess Gen2 5W-40 in it.

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I would drain this oil and put it in your pickup, assuming it's one that takes 5w30

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

I genuinely wonder if the dealer put 0w20 in it. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[chris719]

I genuinely wonder if the dealer put 0w20 in it. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Not sure, the only VOA I found of the 0W-20 looks different, but who knows. I’ve also seen other UOA of this oil under 9 cSt so I think it’s possible it’s the 0W-30.

 

[chris719]

Well, sadly we won’t be seeing the M1 0W-40 UOA I was planning to do in April since this car has been totaled. Hit by a driver that ran a red light. Fortunately escaped any injury.

 

[BMW Dom]

Wow, glad you are okay!

So many bad drivers

 

[Marcozi]

Chris, if you're really serious about oil, check Ravenol's oils. The base stock is PAO (group 4), and additive package is great. There are VOA and UOA analyses for Ravenol VMP 5W30 that I've posted on this forum.