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OP Update: 103K miles on my 2009 Honda Pilot now. I've been running Mobil 1 EP for about 4500-5000 mile intervals, then replacing a pint of it with Kreen, letting that run for about 500 miles, then repeating the process. The Pilot is running like new. I did send what I thought was a sample of...

Originally Posted By: gogozy Originally Posted By: Vikas Do you get the impression that Adam has agag order from Honda? He has now vanished from this forum completely. it's summer month maybe he is taking family out for a trip in the Pilot! Adam says yes to the vacation but no to the Honda...

Originally Posted By: Garak Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH ...(lack of) Maintenance Minder. I do respect the opinion of those who call that overkill, but I am considering it to be inexpensive insurance from this point forward. We have to remember that it's not the fault of the technology...

Originally Posted By: demarpaint Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah But with that said I'd still follow most OLMS with no problem. So far we have seen only a ACTUAL problem with the OLM on this vehicle and GM came back and reprogrammed their OLM on certain vehicles. Plenty of OLMs ARE safe...

Originally Posted By: Tortuga Originally Posted By: doitmyself Excellent, Adam. May I suggest you contact the moderators here to change the title of your thread so that others Googling similar problems will find it? Great suggestion. Adam, glad to hear that things worked out, and I hope...

OP'S CHAPTER CLOSED: Today I met with the Honda Area Rep and my Honda dealer's Service Manager. I reiterated my estimation of the situation: 1) This vehicle's variable cylinder management engine is particularly hard on oil. The cause may be a Honda design flaw or manufacturing problem or both...

Originally Posted By: Hounds OK, let's forget the MM issue for a moment. Instead, let's think Big Picture: In this instance a part wore out (a camshaft) at 87k miles, 27k miles beyond the vehicle warranty period. The cause is indeterminate. Adam's service history indicates that the last time his...

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH Originally Posted By: demarpaint Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh There's a question in this thread that was largely ignored. It was posted by Pablo and I pointed it out: Why was the OP's OLM going off at 10K or more when most of...

Originally Posted By: demarpaint Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh There's a question in this thread that was largely ignored. It was posted by Pablo and I pointed it out: Why was the OP's OLM going off at 10K or more when most of these vehicle OLM's tend to trip between 5000 and 8000 miles. I...

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4 Originally Posted By: Tortuga Merkava_4, I don't think you need to jump all over Adam over this. If you don't want to read the pages and pages of this thread, then simply scroll past it. I am glad that Adam took the time to outline the problem he's had; it's...

Originally Posted By: Hounds The dealer's $750 offer sounds like a reasonable compromise to me. (Actually, it sounds like a roaring good deal, but let's call it a compromise so we can move on.) I believe the sum the dealer charged me for this work was the retail price right out of their...

Originally Posted By: The Critic Adam, I am curious here... Of the services you had done at the dealer, were they only the $39.95 oil changes and were you getting the full A1/B1 services done. Did you ever have any more major 30k or B12 services done at the dealer? I think one of the major...

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4 Originally Posted By: Gabe How is it a poor engine design?? The guy didn't change his oil. I completely agree. It's ridiculous that this thread has gone on for 26 pages about a guy who never changed his oil and is now blaming everything on the design of the...

I thought that those of you who have been following this little lubrication saga would appreciate the email I just sent to my Honda Service Manager... Hi John, I'm writing to address your service technicians comments on my recent work order: "OVERDUE FOR OIL CHANGE PER LUBE STICKER". As you...

Originally Posted By: R2d2 No argument hear, I believe 100% everything the OP has stated. What I am saying is the 2009 engine is not the same as the newer updated engine, and I believe Honda has addressed that. I also think there is 0% percent chance at this point that Honda will foot the bill...

Originally Posted By: dave1251 Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH Originally Posted By: ltslimjim Originally Posted By: antiqueshell I can't say it enough, when there is ANY question of warranty coverage ALWAYS get a manufacturer rep involved BEFORE you have ANY work done on the car at the dealer...

Originally Posted By: ltslimjim Originally Posted By: antiqueshell I can't say it enough, when there is ANY question of warranty coverage ALWAYS get a manufacturer rep involved BEFORE you have ANY work done on the car at the dealer! My guess is that IF the OP had contacted AHM and requested...

Originally Posted By: demarpaint I'd send some pics to the oil company who said you can run their oil till the MM says to change it. These blanket statements are what gets oil companies in trouble too. Great idea, I'll look into that.

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH Originally Posted By: Bladecutter Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH Until I can research a very interesting type of oil that Trav recommended, Is it an ester based oil? BC. It was Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 which is somewhat tricky to...

Originally Posted By: demarpaint Originally Posted By: Adam_in_NH As I consider engine cleaning with Kreen I am reviewing a couple documents from Honda. They were handed to me without an obvious copyright mark and not marked confidential so I thought I would share them with you. One is an...