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#828923 - 02/08/07 03:56 AM Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me?
LouDawg Offline


Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 1483
Loc: SW Indiana
I've been a member for less than a year, and it seems to me there's a disturbing decline in grace and civility on BITOG. Maybe it's just me, but I seem to notice a lot more smart-aleck comments, put downs, and one-upsmanship. Used to be friendly debates and discussions where reasonable people could disagree in a friendly manner. Now, they too often turn into downright insults and name-calling. Heck, I like and use humor as much as the next guy, but some of the things I read here lately go beyond humor and into flaming and vitriol.

What happened? Or am I just being too "sensitive"?

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#828924 - 02/08/07 04:05 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: LouDawg]
wavinwayne Offline


Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 7539
Loc: North Alabama
Sissy!

j/k.....I've noticed it, too.
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#828925 - 02/08/07 04:08 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: LouDawg]
BearZDefect Offline


Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 2194
Loc: Lexington, KY
I'm with you, Lou.

I found BITOG to be one of the few automotive boards that was civil.

Unfortunately, some threads here have degraded in recent weeks and months. I don't know how that happened either.

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#828926 - 02/08/07 04:13 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: BearZDefect]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 40209
Loc: New Jersey
It happens from time to time, people notice it, and it changes.

The long timers get tired of people asking poorly-written simple dumb questions that they could find in a search. The short timers are sometimes rude, etc.

But this type of thing tends to be quite cyclical, it happens.

JMH

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#828927 - 02/08/07 04:15 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: JHZR2]
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19645
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
I think a lot of people are cranky because it's been so cold all across most of North America the last few weeks. I know I've been a lot more cranky since our weather got so much colder! I'll cheer up once our temps finally go above freezing again!
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#828928 - 02/08/07 04:39 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: Patman]
Syntec-Man Offline


Registered: 09/23/06
Posts: 478
Loc: CANADA EH?
I have noticed that for sure!!!! ive been coming to this site for 4 years. i just recently got memebership and everyone has been on my back. Oh you don't have this car blah blah blah. i mean common why would i come lie on the internet does it make sense? how stupid are you to question what cars i own and what i don't own, what do i gain from lying to you? i just joined this site because i have a great interest in lubrication!
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#828929 - 02/08/07 04:47 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: LouDawg]
Mokanic Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 1563
Loc: North Carolina, USA
Quote:

I've been a member for less than a year, and it seems to me there's a disturbing decline in grace and civility on BITOG. Maybe it's just me, but I seem to notice a lot more smart-aleck comments, put downs, and one-upsmanship. Used to be friendly debates and discussions where reasonable people could disagree in a friendly manner. Now, they too often turn into downright insults and name-calling. Heck, I like and use humor as much as the next guy, but some of the things I read here lately go beyond humor and into flaming and vitriol.

What happened? Or am I just being too "sensitive"?






It seems to be more about winning an argument or getting people to think as you do instead of facts and real-world experience.

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#828930 - 02/08/07 04:56 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: LouDawg]
peterr Offline


Registered: 05/13/04
Posts: 441
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I have seen a lot more snide nitpicking responses in the last few months. I have been a member about 3 years and apart from the great info, one of the things I liked was the civility.

It used to be that the only posts that generated any hostility were the ones like
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"I am a total newbie, what is Auto-RX , is Mobil1 the best oil in the world for every single application , and since my oil is a 5w30 how much thicker will it be at operating temperature than it is in winter? "







Now I see people getting snippy not just because of the weather, but about the weather.

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#828931 - 02/08/07 05:05 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: peterr]
Chris Meutsch Offline


Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 2608
Loc: Cincinnati
It's because you can fight anyone on the Internet. It doesn't hurt.
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#828932 - 02/08/07 06:59 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: Chris Meutsch]
obbop Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 2834
Loc: MO
Woosies


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#828933 - 02/08/07 07:11 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: obbop]
rn2fine Offline


Registered: 06/01/04
Posts: 252
Loc: AZ
I have not been here too long but I have noticed what I think is rude behavior. There are lots of people with various backgrounds and experiences on this site. Even if a person feels or knows that they are right they should respect the opinions of others. It appears that some people just can not resist the urge to lash out or back at others. It sometimes reminds me of kids fighting on the playground.
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#828934 - 02/08/07 07:52 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: rn2fine]
ewetho Offline


Registered: 05/05/06
Posts: 1304
Loc: Kankakee, IL
Some is failed attempts at humor, some is just no it all's, some is just rude, some were just poorly chosen words, some is tongue in cheek.

Some in the case of the Mobil1 stuff is people feeling a bit betrayed and angry so the hostility will rise in those threads. I have not noticed to much more lately. Sure it is like other forums I frequent that it ebbs and flows. Some weeks it will ratchet up and up and then people get tired of the #@$%! and we all settle down. Those that don't should be ignored and it will stop.
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#828935 - 02/08/07 07:56 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: ewetho]
Auto-Union Offline


Registered: 02/01/06
Posts: 3833
Loc: NEPA
Site needs a Noob-specific Forum.

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#828936 - 02/08/07 08:06 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: Auto-Union]
Auto-Union Offline


Registered: 02/01/06
Posts: 3833
Loc: NEPA
Seriously, a Forum for Noobs that they will be limited to for the first 10-20 posts. They can post their comments and questions there be helped-out by other Noobs until they either figure it out by themselves or get a Sr. Member who feels like commenting.

Wiseazzes who come here with fully-entrenched idiotic notions and must re-learn everything over from scratch after being de-programmed...they seem to stir the pot a lot in the process. The Noobs can graduate to regular status after a Mod sees they come with good intentions and an open mind. Other Members who act-up can be sent back down to Noobville for a while, then after they repay their Karmic debt by helping out the Noobs for a month they are allows back to the big leagues.

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#828937 - 02/08/07 08:18 AM Re: Is it less civil on BITOG, or is it just me? [Re: Auto-Union]
LouDawg Offline


Registered: 04/01/06
Posts: 1483
Loc: SW Indiana
Quote:

Seriously, a Forum for Noobs that they will be limited to for the first 10-20 posts. They can post their comments and questions there be helped-out by other Noobs until they either figure it out by themselves or get a Sr. Member who feels like commenting.

Wiseazzes who come here with fully-entrenched idiotic notions and must re-learn everything over from scratch after being de-programmed...they seem to stir the pot a lot in the process. The Noobs can graduate to regular status after a Mod sees they come with good intentions and an open mind. Other Members who act-up can be sent back down to Noobville for a while, then after they repay their Karmic debt by helping out the Noobs for a month they are allows back to the big leagues.




Good idea!

But wait, please tell me I have graduated past the noob stage!
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