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#699003 - 12/09/05 07:18 PM Any Snow tire performance updates?
oily boyd Offline


Registered: 05/23/05
Posts: 535
Loc: WI
Just travelled through South Bend, IN and Chicago on my way to WI this past Thursday (>10" in those areas).

My car is an 05 Camry LE (4 cyl, auto) and I have 205/65-15 Blizzak REVO 1's mounted for the winter.

Snow traction is great - no complaints. Dry handling is a bit sqirmy but again - no complaints.

Slight whining >70 mph on dry asphalt but not irritating or distracting.

I am interested to see how much tread is left when I take them off in the beginning of March w/15,000 miles on them.

I have Graspic DS-1's (14,000 mi and 2 seasons on them) mounted on my wife's 04 Civic EX (manual trans) and we are equally pleased with them.


Thatwouldbegreat : how is your daughter enjoying her REVO 1's?

Dominic : how are those Dunlop M3's on your Camaro? I am considering those next time.

[Cheers!]

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#699004 - 12/09/05 07:32 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Moloch Offline


Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 101
Loc: Depew NY
I also have Graspic DS-1's coming from low profile sitiff sidewall and great grip, it feels weird to ride on the skinny soft sidewall tire, but my car is not all over the road anymore [Smile]

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#699005 - 12/09/05 07:36 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Crack_Tan Offline


Registered: 10/12/05
Posts: 148
Loc: PA
Nice timing!

In central PA we got 4-6 inches of snow yesterday, so I took my wife's AWD Vibe out in the early A.M. to test it out. I'm running 205/55VR-16 Dunlop Winter Sport M3's on Toyota OEM steel wheels.

Snow traction was excellent. I got out on some back-country roads that hadn't been plowed and had no problems. On the return trip, took a different route on a well-traveled state road with packed snow. Again, it was pleasantly uneventful.

Dry road surfaces are as usual with most snow tires: More road nose, a little less traction than all-seasons', but that's to be expected. Note: This is the first set of dedicated snow tires I've ever owned that weren't studded. Thus, these things feel downright "stealth" compared to the old days...

Wet surfaces: Don't know yet. It's been too cold for any melt-off of the snow we have.

C.T.

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#699006 - 12/09/05 07:47 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Brikhead Offline


Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 336
Loc: Schwenksville, PA
I was wondering how long it would take before a snow tire thread popped up.

`93 Volvo 245 - (4)14" (Firestone)Winterforce (not studded/2nd season)
`03 VW Golf - (4)15" Kumho KW11 IzenStud (not studded/3rd season)

Even w/Winterforces, the rwd Volvo is still an "adventure" to drive in the snow. They do make the white stuff more managable though. The KW11s on the VW help transform that car into snowmobile.

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#699007 - 12/10/05 08:00 AM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Pluto5 Offline


Registered: 09/27/02
Posts: 226
Loc: Virginia
Too bad Tirerack isn't showing the Kumho KW11s any more. I have them unstudded on two FWD Chevies and they make winter driving fun again but you don't give up any performance on wet or dry roads as far as I can tell. It seems that Tirerack is trying to raise its margins by not selling them.

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#699008 - 12/09/05 09:17 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 40512
Loc: New Jersey
I got GY eagle ultra grip tires for my 04 saab 9-3 last winter (OE wheels, all set up from the dealer). GREAT tires, excellent traction, though I never saw the need for AWD even with all season tires in 6+ inches of snow, because the saab is so darn good in snow driving... But anyway, I couldnt really get loose in snow and muck because the tires did realy well, and they didnt really exhibit any indication of having snow tires on the car... Im really happy!

I got some canadian tire nordic icetrak tires for my 91 BMW 318 a couple years ago. That car is HORRIBLE in the snow, even on an ice patch in the middle of a parking lot, it would slip and slide... These tires made a huge difference, and the tires were great - quite a transformation.

My 98 chevy s10 zr2 had BFG all terrains as OE fittment from the factory. Last year I changed them because the rubber started to look oxidized (50% trad left at ~50k miles!). The new ones have the snowflake symbol of a 'snow tire'. Amazing results from them too! With the old tires, I could easily set off ABS (I try to do this a lot when its bad conditions to gauge slipperyness). With the new BFGs, I couldnt even get ABS to engage, and could often get going in bad stuff with only 2wd enabled - stuff that certainly would need at least 4hi with the old tires!

I just got pirelli sport 210 snow tires for my father's 96 MB E300D... havent tested them yet though...

JMH

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#699009 - 12/12/05 08:07 AM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
JohnnyO Offline


Registered: 09/26/03
Posts: 2510
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I have Blizzak WS-50's on my wife's Taurus wagon, stock 215/60-16 size, they chew through the snow like nobody's business. Better than my truck with half-worn Dueler REVO's when it's in 2wd actually.

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#699010 - 12/11/05 09:05 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
sxg6 Offline


Registered: 05/23/04
Posts: 2452
Loc: ME
brand new blizzak ws-50's on my civic, and i absolutely love them. have provided me with excellent snow traction this season

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#699011 - 12/11/05 11:42 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
yohan Offline


Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 23
Loc: Bromont,QC,Canada
Canadian tire's Nordic icetrack on my Civic for the third season...really great tire for the price...will not pay $$$ again for Blizzaks, G-02 plus or others big brand names

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#699012 - 12/12/05 07:44 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Greaser Offline


Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1992
Loc: Windsor,Ontario
My B.F Goodrich A.T K.O's grip like on railway tracks thus far in the snow.... [HAIL 2 U!] [Burnout]

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#699013 - 12/13/05 08:13 AM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
uconn1150 Offline


Registered: 03/19/03
Posts: 694
Loc: Texas
Hey Greaser,

Do the ATs work better in the snow than the rain? Mine get really squirmy when wet and at speed. Thinking of trying the Bridgestone Revos.

Thanks!

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#699014 - 12/12/05 10:03 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Brikhead Offline


Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 336
Loc: Schwenksville, PA
quote:
Too bad Tirerack isn't showing the Kumho KW11s any more. It seems that Tirerack is trying to raise its margins by not selling them.

I agree. The only "cheap" snow tire The Tire Rack now offers is the Winterforce. They've even done away w/inexpensive steel wheels for many applications. Raising margins indeed, IMO. [Thumbs Down!]

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#699015 - 12/12/05 10:58 PM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
Greaser Offline


Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 1992
Loc: Windsor,Ontario
uconn150...I really like the B.F.G'S in any weather...it's the tire pressure that you have to keep an eye on with weather temperature change.Colder a bit firmer on the PSI,warmer a bit softer tire works best other than that fantastic tire.I have them on a Cherokee and a Jeep TJ [Big Grin]

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#699016 - 12/13/05 12:01 AM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
uconn1150 Offline


Registered: 03/19/03
Posts: 694
Loc: Texas
Greaser, thanks for the help. Dry/Snow the BFGs are awesome...but when wet ,or even in shallow mud, they slip like crazy. Weird huh...maybe the compound is dried out.

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#699017 - 12/13/05 12:20 AM Re: Any Snow tire performance updates?
1sttruck Offline


Registered: 03/20/04
Posts: 4378
Loc: Camas, WA
"Dry/Snow the BFGs are awesome...but when wet ,or even in shallow mud, they slip like crazy. Weird huh...maybe the compound is dried out."

The BFG ATs don't have typical channels for rain like a ribbed tire so they may not do as well in rain as some other tires. The have a severe snow rating and they seem to do well in snow, but I've seen 4wd Jeeps with the tires stall and start sliding backwards on ice covered hills. Some coworkers have siped BFG ATs, and while it helps they still complained about sliding on ice.

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