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#616869 - 04/20/06 09:42 AM Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
rcy Offline


Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 1592
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I emailed Peak at their website asking which of their many coolants was G-05 (really..they have like 8 different kinds of coolant). This was the reply..

"Thanks for your e-mail. Yes, the PEAK GLOBAL LIFETIME COOLANT is
compatible the G-05. G-05 is a name of a formulation used in VW/Audi
cooling systems. PEAK GLOBAL LIFETIME meets or exceeds the G-05
recommended change interval of vehicles requiring G-05 coolant.

Sincerely,

PEAK Tech Dept."

OK...it's only a wee misinformation - I thought VW/Audi were spec'ing G12/G12+ in their newer cars. Anyway, notice they didn't exactly say that their Global Lifetime Antifreeze IS G-05, just that it's compatible, meets or exceeds, blah blah blah.

Why is it so hard to find a coolant that prominently displays G-05 on it's label? Can anyone confirm if the Peak Global Lifetime IS G-05. Would you actually leave this stuff in your car for it's 'lifetime'?

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#616870 - 04/21/06 09:02 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
Iain Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 645
Loc: US/UK
....amazing [Roll Eyes]

If Peak have MSDS information available on their website, compare that to the following compositional information for Zerex green and G-05, pasted from their respective MSDS.


Zerex Green Coolant:
quote:
The Valvoline Company Date Prepared: 10/05/01

MSDS No: 503.0311762-002.004I
ZEREX AFC 6/1 GA

__________________________________________________________________________

1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

Material Identity
Product Name: ZEREX AFC 6/1 GA
General or Generic ID: GLYCOL

Company Telephone Numbers
The Valvoline Company Emergency: 1-800-274-5263
P.O. Box 14000
Lexington, KY 40512 Information: 1-859-357-7206

__________________________________________________________________________

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

Ingredient(s) CAS Number % (by weight)
-------------------------------------------- ------------- -------------
ETHYLENE GLYCOL 107-21-1 90.0- 90.0
DIETHYLENE GLYCOL 111-46-6 1.0- 10.0
DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE 7758-11-4 1.0- 7.0

Zerex G-05 Coolant:
quote:
The Valvoline Company Date Prepared: 04/10/02

MSDS No: 503.0296766-002.006I
ZEREX G-05 AFC 6/1 GA

__________________________________________________________________________

1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

Material Identity
Product Name: ZEREX G-05 AFC 6/1 GA
General or Generic ID: GLYCOL

Company Telephone Numbers
The Valvoline Company Emergency: 1-800-274-5263
P.O. Box 14000
Lexington, KY 40512 Information: 1-859-357-7206

__________________________________________________________________________

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

Ingredient(s) CAS Number % (by weight)
-------------------------------------------- ------------- -------------
ETHYLENE GLYCOL 107-21-1 89.0
DIETHYLENE GLYCOL 111-46-6 0.0- 10.0
SODIUM TETRABORATE PENTAHYDRATE 1330-43-4 0.0- 7.0



[ April 21, 2006, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Iain ]

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#616871 - 04/30/06 09:28 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
lght1 Offline


Registered: 05/23/03
Posts: 547
Loc: USA
Hi

G-05 is a Hybrid OAT in that it actually has some silicates.

Since silicated Green is likely only available now as "Old shelf stock", you can have limited choices regarding silicates.

Anything you choose, just make sure the system is completely free of old coolant.

G-05 is made by Zerex ( Valvoline-Ashland ) and can be found under the labels of FORD Gold and Chrysler Long Life.

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#616872 - 05/01/06 12:48 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
ron350 Offline


Registered: 04/25/06
Posts: 263
Loc: Alabama
Iain thanks for posting the chemical contents.

Do you have the chemical contents of Havoline Dex-cool and Prestone Dex- compatible?

Sure would be nice to have the ingredients of the different brands in one place.


Thanks
Ron

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#616873 - 05/01/06 07:10 PM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
lght1 Offline


Registered: 05/23/03
Posts: 547
Loc: USA
Hi

Just go to walmart and compare.

G-05 is silicated and does not have 2-eha.

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#616874 - 05/01/06 10:43 PM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
ron350 Offline


Registered: 04/25/06
Posts: 263
Loc: Alabama
So far this is all I have found
http://www.peakantifreeze.com/peak_global_lifetime.html

“Features a patented non 2-EH formula that is phosphate-free and silicate-free.”

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#616875 - 05/01/06 11:23 PM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
Ray H Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 4478
Loc: Southern California
Which describes DEX-COOL/dexclones perfectly.

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#616876 - 05/02/06 03:00 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
ron350 Offline


Registered: 04/25/06
Posts: 263
Loc: Alabama
Prestone was nice enough to email the ingredients for Prestone Extended Life.


What is (Neodacanoic Acid, Sodium Salt 31548-27-3)and do all Dex-clones have it?


SECTION 2: PRODUCT COMPONENTS
HAZARDOUS COMPONENTS CAS# PERCENT EXPOSURE LIMITS
Ethylene Glycol 107-21-1 80-95 None Established-OSHA PEL
(aerosol) 100 mg/m3 Ceiling ACGIH TLV

Diethylene Glycol 111-46-6 0-5 None Established
OSHA PEL, ACGIH TLV

Non-Hazardous Ingredients >1%
Water 7732-18-5
2-Ethyl Hexanoic Acid, Sodium Salt 19766-89-3
Neodacanoic Acid, Sodium Salt 31548-27-3

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#616877 - 05/03/06 05:39 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
Ray H Offline


Registered: 01/16/03
Posts: 4478
Loc: Southern California
Sodium 2-ethyl hexanoate is common to all Prestone-made dexclones and Prestone's own GM licensed DEX-COOL(tm) formulation*. I don't know whether sodium neodecanoate (when these organic salts are hydrated in aqueous solution, they become their respective acids which your post named) is a specific formulated ingredient or an inevitable byproduct of 2-EH synthesis.

*Check the backs of the Prestone DEX-COOL(TM) silver-gray jugs, Prestone Extended Life in the yellow jugs, and WalMart's SuperTech Extended Life in the blue jugs. They all list identical ingredients. All antifreeze concentrate formulations are about 92% glycol and 5% de-ionized water - which doesn't leave much wiggle room for varying the corrosion protection ingredients' recipe.

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#616878 - 05/03/06 06:04 AM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
bruce381 Offline


Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 3327
Loc: Millbrae, CA
Ray I use both acids and the acid form is the more common and easiest to work with.

2 ethyl hexanoic acid and neo decanoic acid are common for auto coolants and use in industrial metalworking fluids as corrosion inhibitors when nuetralized to a salt with a base such as pottasium hydroxide or sodium hydroxide or even
any of the various amines such as tea or mea.

bruce

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#616879 - 05/03/06 07:03 PM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
Iain Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 645
Loc: US/UK
quote:
Do you have the chemical contents of Havoline Dex-cool and Prestone Dex- compatible?

No. Only coolant MSDS I have are Zerex. Dex Cool compositional information are below:

Zerex Dex Cool
quote:
The Valvoline Company Date Prepared: 01/14/02

MSDS No: 503.0318755-001.004I
ZEREX DEX COOL APPROVED AFC 6/1 GA

__________________________________________________________________________

1. CHEMICAL PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

Material Identity
Product Name: ZEREX DEX COOL APPROVED AFC 6/1 GA
General or Generic ID: ANTIFREEZE

Company Telephone Numbers
The Valvoline Company Emergency: 1-800-274-5263
P.O. Box 14000
Lexington, KY 40512 Information: 1-859-357-7206

__________________________________________________________________________

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

Ingredient(s) CAS Number % (by weight)
-------------------------------------------- ------------- -------------
ETHYLENE GLYCOL 107-21-1 89.0- 89.0
DIETHYLENE GLYCOL 111-46-6 1.0- 10.0
ETHYLHEXANOIC ACID 149-57-5 1.0- 8.0
POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE 1310-58-3 1.0- 6.0


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#616880 - 05/06/06 05:17 PM Re: Does Peak make G-05? Global Lifetime coolant?
toocrazy2yoo Offline


Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 2724
Loc: Herndon, Virginia
Iain! FFX County, eh?

Herndon, Here!

Where ya at? Besides you, only one in the area I've noticed is Dick in Falls Church..

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