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#3166926 - 10/24/13 11:23 PM Pennzoil dino better than synthetic?
ziggy Offline


Registered: 08/08/05
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Loc: stamford, CT
Hi all! I was looking at data sheets other day, from some oil companys. I looked at online, pennzoil! The platinums pour point, was 27 degrees C. the ultra was like 44 C, and pennzoil dino.....showed minus 42 C. using 2 different calculator temp converstions, i found minus 42 comes out too 43 degrees F.
Any truth to this? Also noted the dino had like 258 of moly in it!!! many other oils out htier only have half the amount or less. so made me think..thier dino seems too act or perform as a top notch synthetic!
whats everyone think?

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#3166931 - 10/24/13 11:34 PM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
Gabe Offline


Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 1437
Loc: Indiana
Pour point is a very outdated test. There are much better tests to determine how an oil will behave at start up.

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#3166961 - 10/25/13 12:12 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
stchman Offline


Registered: 09/25/13
Posts: 1502
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Synthetic will always trump conventional.
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#3166986 - 10/25/13 01:11 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
asiancivicmaniac Offline


Registered: 01/12/05
Posts: 4276
Loc: FL
Your numbers are wrong.

Platinum 5w-30 is -42 C
Ultra 5w-30 is -51 C
conventional 5w-30 is -42 C
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#3166996 - 10/25/13 01:42 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
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Registered: 08/14/10
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Pour point is useless. Look at the VI and NOACK. Also the pp and PU are most likely using Tri nuclear moly which doesn't require as many ppm to get the same effect.
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#3167055 - 10/25/13 05:15 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
NHGUY Offline


Registered: 10/09/11
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In other words...its all good stuff.

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#3167161 - 10/25/13 08:22 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
Flareside302 Offline


Registered: 01/06/13
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Loc: LaVergne, TN
No, synthetic will always beat conventional..

Pennzoil Ultra especially..
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#3167168 - 10/25/13 08:26 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
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Pennzoil imo is the best Dino out there. Kendall is next in line.
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#3167248 - 10/25/13 09:37 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
Nate1979 Offline


Registered: 04/08/13
Posts: 3501
Loc: Portland, OR
Originally Posted By: ziggy
Hi all! I was looking at data sheets other day, from some oil companys. I looked at online, pennzoil! The platinums pour point, was 27 degrees C. the ultra was like 44 C, and pennzoil dino.....showed minus 42 C. using 2 different calculator temp converstions, i found minus 42 comes out too 43 degrees F.
Any truth to this? Also noted the dino had like 258 of moly in it!!! many other oils out htier only have half the amount or less. so made me think..thier dino seems too act or perform as a top notch synthetic!
whats everyone think?


There are so many errors in this post. You may want to look at your numbers again. Pour point of PP is ~ -42C. -42C is -43F.
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#3167389 - 10/25/13 11:13 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
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Registered: 11/07/09
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Loc: Oconomowoc Wi
PYB may be the best conventional oil... PP and ultra are a step above if you want longer OCI's...
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#3167437 - 10/25/13 11:45 AM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: Boss302fan]
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Registered: 05/12/08
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Loc: Easton, PA
Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
PYB may be the best conventional oil... PP and ultra are a step above if you want longer OCI's...



I always used pyb or gtx conventional. It was a toss up for me. Although now I hear on this board that gtx leaves varnish. idk
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#3167554 - 10/25/13 01:47 PM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: ziggy]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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GTX shouldn't leave varnish, but Pyb is way better with its additive package. GTX will run out of TBN before Pyb.
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#3167698 - 10/25/13 05:15 PM Re: Pennzoil dino better than synthetic? [Re: Boss302fan]
Realtech214 Offline


Registered: 02/01/13
Posts: 699
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
PYB may be the best conventional oil... PP and ultra are a step above if you want longer OCI's...


Couldnt agree more
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