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#2969579 - 04/11/13 03:12 PM Powermore engines?
SEMI_287 Online   sleepy


Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 1293
Loc: Up State NY
I purchased a new Huskee LT 4200 lawn tractor from Tractor Supply. I've been looking online for info about the engine in it. Seems they've been making them for a while but I could find NOTHING on them. I'm not worried about it, I have a Chinese Greyhound 6.5 horse on my old tiller and it's a fantastic little engine. Does anyone on here have any experience with them or know anything about them??
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#2969586 - 04/11/13 03:17 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
cpayne5 Offline


Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 517
Loc: Virginia
I found this.
http://www.powermore.ca/powermore/default_st.asp

Is it the same Powermore you referenced? On their about page, they have a reference to MTD (sounds like their parent company).

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#2969704 - 04/11/13 05:13 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 02/25/11
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I believe MTD owns or has some stake in the company since even Sears equipment have these engines. The one on my mower is a nice little 420cc.

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#2969791 - 04/11/13 06:38 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 06/14/11
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Loc: Texas
The engines are Honda clones made in China. They are OK but unproven in long term use. The smaller pull start engines have very weak recoil starters. Repair parts are relatively expensive. Production quality is suspect and it doesn't appear that they do any kind of quality control inspections before shipping (common on many/most Chinese manufactured products). Before you jump to any conclusions you should know that Honda and B&S both have manufacturing plants in China.


Edited by wag123 (04/11/13 06:40 PM)

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#2970355 - 04/12/13 11:14 AM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 31676
Loc: ME
I have one of those, a cheap OHV vertical shaft on a MTD deck. I sought it out b/c I was sick of flatheads. Runs great. Starts up smoothly, governor doesn't overshoot like a nasty briggs. Just slowly goes up to speed. Fantastic on gas: I wanted to run it out for winter and it took about two complete lawnmowings to get that far.

My sample came with a defective starter rope, had to take it off and bend some metal tabs to get them out of the way. Was the last of my model's stock so I didn't want to return it.

In short it is a complete appliance motor, no personality whatsoever. laugh

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#2970437 - 04/12/13 12:24 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
Woody71 Offline


Registered: 07/22/11
Posts: 144
Loc: NE OH
The Cub Cadet Snow Thrower (526-SWE) I bought in 2011 has a 277CC PowerMore engine. I would agree about QC lacking as some of the bolts on the engine look like they weren't threaded in properly.

So far it's kept up but doesn't seem to be on par with the 270CC rating. Figure I'll take care of it and we'll see how long it lasts.

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#2970441 - 04/12/13 12:25 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
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Loc: Albany, NY
Yup, chinese honda clone. Worst thing about them is usually their carbs and rubber parts. Other than that they are generally fairly solid engines.
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#2971642 - 04/13/13 04:12 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 10043
Loc: Buffalo, NY
SEMI, you'll be fine with that Powermore engine. It's probably better than a comparable briggs or kohler today.

My main concern with your mower would be the transaxle. I'm hoping for your sake it's an actual gear drive and not a transmatic (belt and variator drive).

You know it's an MTD transmatic if you've got a separate lever for F-N-R and one for 1-2-3-4.... I've spent more time tinkering with them than I would have liked.
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#2971887 - 04/13/13 08:37 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 02/25/11
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Well this bit of info is promising! It's a transmatic, hopefully it won't give me too many problems. Any idea what Honda it's cloned from?
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#2971948 - 04/13/13 10:09 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
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Loc: Buffalo, NY
Originally Posted By: SEMI_287
Well this bit of info is promising! It's a transmatic, hopefully it won't give me too many problems. Any idea what Honda it's cloned from?


In the early days of "Chonda", they were cloned from Honda GX series. They've evolved quite a way from them over the years IMO. The cosmetics on that Powermore don't look anything like a Honda GXV340, but the underpinnings might be similar.

Good luck with the transmatic. The main thing is to keep them clean and dry and try to avoid garden hose washing. This will give you maximum life out of the bushing for the moveable sheave on the variator pulley.
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#2972152 - 04/14/13 08:03 AM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 6170
Loc: North Coast
You meet the nicest people on a Chonda. LOL I have one in my generator. The key to success is:

1. Do 2 break in oil changes at 1 and 2 hours of operation with 30w oil.
2. Ditch the OEM spark plug for a champion or autolite
3. Use techron at least 2x each year and store with a double dose of Marine Stabil.

That thing will run forever with just a little bit of care. Mine likes Rotella 10w30. be sure to keep the air filter clean.


Edited by Doog (04/14/13 08:04 AM)
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#2972506 - 04/14/13 02:11 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 10043
Loc: Buffalo, NY
My take on this stuff is as always...

The engine make/model should be the LEAST of your worries. The transaxle, cutting deck and associated components and steering components are what matters.

SEMI- make sure you set that 42" such that it does not ride on the ground. Gauge wheels on this type of machine are only intended to ride over occasional high spots.

Scrape the underside of the deck after each use with a paint stirring stick or the likes, blow the whole thing off with your leaf blower and you'll be good to go for a long time.

FWIW, I'd run a HDEO in that engine, be it 15w40, 5w40, Kohler or Briggs 10w30. I'd also x-ref and probably oversize the oil filter as well.


Edited by JTK (04/14/13 02:12 PM)
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#2972590 - 04/14/13 04:25 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
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Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 1293
Loc: Up State NY
At the moment I'm trying to find a filter to cross reference to. I do not have the tractor yet so I can't take it to a parts store to check it out. I would like to run a Wix 51516 on it, if it had 3/4 16 threads. I also plan to run a quality 15w40 in the summer and 5w40 in the winter or 5w30 if next winter is really bitter. It does have the mounting on the deck for the deck wash system. It's $13 at Sears. smile

I did about three break ins on my Chonda on the old tiller. crackmeup I also intend on getting a good ole Champion plug in her too.
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#2972776 - 04/14/13 07:45 PM Re: Powermore engines? [Re: SEMI_287]
JTK Offline


Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 10043
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Yep, it looks like you should be able to go longer on the oil filter. Not sure if you could go FL400 long, but maybe. That's what I used to run on my Kohler Command and Courage V-twins.

With gas as expensive as it is, you made a good move sticking with a single cyl engine. I like that Powermore also because it looks like you have no need for a fuel pump. The tank is set higher than the engine. Much more simple. You could install a fuel shut-off valve in-line for additional safety if you wanted to.
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