Recent Topics
Oil advice for a 1996 Land Cruiser
by HolyOilSeeker
02/25/17 05:54 PM
C/O 12k Km OCI M1 M108 Winter
by Stewie
02/25/17 05:50 PM
Mobil 1 M1-104 cut 18,000 miles Pennzoil Platinum
by guitarandoil67
02/25/17 05:25 PM
Homemade Anode Rod ? RUST Prevention
by larryinnewyork
02/25/17 05:11 PM
Kawasaki K-Tech
by vronline
02/25/17 05:11 PM
The unanswered ? - how do buyers check quality?
by edwardh1
02/25/17 04:12 PM
Vinyl Siding Problem from Get Go
by HosteenJorje
02/25/17 03:45 PM
FRAM FPS-3614 VIRGIN FILTER CUT OPEN
by car51
02/25/17 02:06 PM
Valvoline MaxLife 5W40 VOA
by zoli
02/25/17 01:27 PM
Platinum
by Dylan1303
02/25/17 12:57 PM
2008 Maxima with 96k (oil recommendation please)
by AshleyQuick
02/25/17 12:44 PM
Looking At A Chevrolet Trax
by Red91
02/25/17 12:17 PM
Want a good laugh? Auto Zone experience...
by sasilverbullet
02/25/17 12:06 PM
STP S 10060XL, 8,000 miles CUT OPEN
by car51
02/25/17 12:02 PM
Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic is back!
by boom10ful
02/25/17 11:57 AM
Residual Water
by JBinKC
02/25/17 11:27 AM
How do you keep bottom of mower deck clean?
by 2civics
02/25/17 10:17 AM
HM oil benefits if seals are new on old engine?
by nobb
02/25/17 10:01 AM
Tire question
by supton
02/25/17 09:42 AM
Napa Gold Filters Half Price Filter Sale GR, MI
by Toto
02/25/17 09:40 AM
Newest Members
robjust, DGW44, thot1414, Crimson, JeffMeager
60640 Registered Users
Who's Online
92 registered (87sammy, Bandito440, ammolab, bdcardinal, 69GTX, askani79705, 3 invisible), 2029 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
60640 Members
66 Forums
261556 Topics
4315234 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#2767937 - 10/09/12 07:16 PM New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47100
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA

Top
#2767950 - 10/09/12 07:30 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
RiceCake Offline


Registered: 09/22/12
Posts: 1044
Loc: Coldtown, Canada
Only meets older Euro specs though on almost all counts.

Top
#2767951 - 10/09/12 07:31 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 32997
Loc: Great Lakes
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.
_________________________
'02 530i (Edge HM 10W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)

Top
#2767960 - 10/09/12 07:39 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4688
Loc: Iowa
What's the difference between low and full saps?
_________________________
2011 F-150 Ecoboost
2012 Focus S
2001 Taurus

Top
#2767973 - 10/09/12 07:55 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Quattro Pete]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47100
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.


It's not on the market yet. Just a tease picture from the catalog. Oct 15 as it says.

Originally Posted By: volk06
What's the difference between low and full saps?


Ball park: Low SAPS oils are 600-800 ppm. Full SAPS ~1200-1400+ ppm

Top
#2767991 - 10/09/12 08:09 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30243
Loc: NJ
The cost of the full saps is $7.40. Probably a group III blend. Nice! They sort of needed a full sap x40.

The additives for the low sap are probably more expensive, hence the cost difference.
_________________________


Top
#2768006 - 10/09/12 08:26 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: buster]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1312
Loc: Illinois
Pablo. Can you confirm group 3 or 4? Regardless this is most likely a great oil. Hopefully it competes with M1 0w40. If it does ill be using it. Have been waiting for a real euro oil from amsoil!
_________________________
2016 VW Passat SE 1.8TSI
Reflex Silver/Black
M1 0w40/Napa Gold

Top
#2768012 - 10/09/12 08:32 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4688
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Cool!

What are the specs for it? I don't see it on amsoil.com.


It's not on the market yet. Just a tease picture from the catalog. Oct 15 as it says.

Originally Posted By: volk06
What's the difference between low and full saps?


Ball park: Low SAPS oils are 600-800 ppm. Full SAPS ~1200-1400+ ppm


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?
_________________________
2011 F-150 Ecoboost
2012 Focus S
2001 Taurus

Top
#2768034 - 10/09/12 08:48 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: volk06]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47100
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: volk06


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?


Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulfur

Top
#2768036 - 10/09/12 08:50 PM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4688
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: volk06


I'm assuming ZDDP levels?


Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulfur


Thank you. Never knew what SAPS stood for until now.
_________________________
2011 F-150 Ecoboost
2012 Focus S
2001 Taurus

Top
#2768143 - 10/10/12 01:19 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
tudorart Offline


Registered: 07/17/11
Posts: 197
Loc: Transylvania, Romania, EU
Yes! Finally ! they lack a 5W40 full saps ... I like the MB229.5 suitable for AMG models among others.
Hey Pablo would this be the same base stock as the XL and OE? you'd think so by the price...is it gr III or III+/GTL.

As far as I know MB229.5 is only attainable with PAO and GTL period. I have the white paper somewhere...

Did you notice the Dexos 2 on the MID saps? Has it been reformulated or just tested and labeled? I'm glad they added it anyhow.

Top
#2768207 - 10/10/12 05:57 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: tudorart]
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47100
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
I do not know the formula. I suspect a blend of several/many basestocks, but this is only speculation.

Top
#2773097 - 10/15/12 08:34 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1312
Loc: Illinois
Anymore on this? Want to order some but have not seen it on the site yet...
_________________________
2016 VW Passat SE 1.8TSI
Reflex Silver/Black
M1 0w40/Napa Gold

Top
#2773156 - 10/15/12 09:52 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
buster Offline


Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 30243
Loc: NJ
Looks similar to the AFL, 5w-40, but with higher additive treat levels. I'd say predominately Group III.

FP of 428F and PP of -38F.
_________________________


Top
#2773188 - 10/15/12 10:31 AM Re: New Amsoil European FULL SAPS 5W-40 [Re: Pablo]
BTLew81 Offline


Registered: 10/23/06
Posts: 1312
Loc: Illinois
Finally saw it on the site. Looks pretty good to me. Nice TBN and general specs. Have a stash of M1 0w40, but might have to try this out. Even if it is group 3, still looks like a performer with a nice add pack.

The price is nice too. Even without the PC discount it's just over $7! Seems like a bargain!
_________________________
2016 VW Passat SE 1.8TSI
Reflex Silver/Black
M1 0w40/Napa Gold

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >