sorry about improper format; blackstone says: moly 118; boron 176; calcium 2177; magnesium 10; phosphorus 601; zinc 489; SUS viscosity@210degreesF 51.1; cSt viscosity@100degreesC 7.60; Flashpoint in degreesF 405; TBN 8.2;
eneos sustina 0w20 voa
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sorry artem, i am computer challenged; blackstone commented that it was unusual but not alarming that there is more phosphorus present than zinc; uoa will be more useful; as previously noted elsewhere i drive 8k miles per month; uoa will happen soon; it appears from the uoa on my old oil that my operating conditions are not particularly hard on motor oils.
thanks for this! really interested in this oil. looking fwd to your uoa's! let us know if fuel mileage improves.
Yes thanks tribocessive.
The Sustina PDS is below:
http://neoxon.uw.hu/car/eneos_sustina_product_data_sheet.pdf
Nice to see the fairly high Moly and Boron.
Too bad it's 3 times the price of the Toyota 0W-20 in Canada.
The Sustina PDS is below:
http://neoxon.uw.hu/car/eneos_sustina_product_data_sheet.pdf
Nice to see the fairly high Moly and Boron.
Too bad it's 3 times the price of the Toyota 0W-20 in Canada.
the baseline numbers are now established; uoas coming soon! we will see how well the eneos zinc formula works; sustina is indeed too expensive- however, i can recover costs rapidly with fuel cost savings; also, on a side note, thank you caterham; i've learned a great deal from you already; i'm a newbie-bitog member of one week.
Thanx for doing this!
TBN is a bit off from the PDS. Looking forward to the UOA
TBN is a bit off from the PDS. Looking forward to the UOA
Originally Posted By: cp3
Thanx for doing this!
TBN is a bit off from the PDS.
Yes, that TBN is more than a little disappointing.
(One of the reasons I wanted to mix it with the Red Line 0W-30 was to bring up that oil's relatively low TBN, but this VOA shows it as almost equal to the RL!)
I take it they are using the newest, 'trimer' type moly, hence the low number?
Thanx for doing this!
TBN is a bit off from the PDS.
Yes, that TBN is more than a little disappointing.
I take it they are using the newest, 'trimer' type moly, hence the low number?
Kinda reminds me of SN Honda Genuine by CP.
Originally Posted By: Indydriver
Kinda reminds me of SN Honda Genuine by CP.
Of course it's a very different formulation to the Honda CP 0W-20. The 51 point VI difference is just the starting point.
Kinda reminds me of SN Honda Genuine by CP.
Of course it's a very different formulation to the Honda CP 0W-20. The 51 point VI difference is just the starting point.
Where can one buy this oil? I think it would be great in a Toyota that specs 5w or 0w20.
sorry i didn't see you sooner; www.sparktecmotorsports.com; bare bones operation-don't worry; $15/qt total cost-expensive; i think this oil will be a good fit for your vehicles there in tejas; my uoa's will be starting soon; look for improved performance you can feel, 3% better fuel economy, and hopefully extended oci's+ a cleaner, more durable engine.
Originally Posted By: Brons2
Where can one buy this oil? I think it would be great in a Toyota that specs 5w or 0w20.
Also saw it on an endcap at my Napa this morning, no idea on price though.
Where can one buy this oil? I think it would be great in a Toyota that specs 5w or 0w20.
Also saw it on an endcap at my Napa this morning, no idea on price though.
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Where can one buy this oil? I think it would be great in a Toyota that specs 5w or 0w20.
Also saw it on an endcap at my Napa this morning, no idea on price though.
That was probably the Eneos 0W-20, NOT the Sustina (made by Eneos) 0W-20, unless certain NAPAs just started carrying it??
BTW; if you feel better actually talking to the people you are ordering this (or other; Motul/Elf/Red Line/MPT/etc.) expensive oil(s) from (as opposed to just blindly ordering online, as sparktecmotorsports REFUSES to pick up/answer their phones, or voicemails, THIS BOTHERS ME, I don't know about you), there is also eurosyntheticoils.com to purchase from.
Originally Posted By: Brons2
Where can one buy this oil? I think it would be great in a Toyota that specs 5w or 0w20.
Also saw it on an endcap at my Napa this morning, no idea on price though.
That was probably the Eneos 0W-20, NOT the Sustina (made by Eneos) 0W-20, unless certain NAPAs just started carrying it??
BTW; if you feel better actually talking to the people you are ordering this (or other; Motul/Elf/Red Line/MPT/etc.) expensive oil(s) from (as opposed to just blindly ordering online, as sparktecmotorsports REFUSES to pick up/answer their phones, or voicemails, THIS BOTHERS ME, I don't know about you), there is also eurosyntheticoils.com to purchase from.
thanks for the info! i will plan on doing a field study on motul soon! sparktec was solid inspite the no phone contact issue; i've seen that 8100 0W20 is SM; that said, my ironclad 100k mile hyundai doesn't concern me.
Are you saying you are not concerned about complying with the warranty, or that because you already have 47K on a 2012 you're not worried about it?
[edit] you're also using Redline ATF? I guess you really don't care about the warranty
Hyundai/Kia are pretty hard core about the SPIII, from what I have heard. No doubt though the D4 is a way better fluid.
[edit] you're also using Redline ATF? I guess you really don't care about the warranty
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i used the word "ironclad" facetiously; hyundai's 100k mile warranty is infamous; for my unique circumstances, a 10 year-100,000 mile warranty is actually a 1 year warranty that the manufacturer won't honor anyway; if i have not selected a durable vehicle that will give me many miles of cost-effective motoring, i'm already in trouble at 47k miles; others would correctly think entirely differently, based upon their circumstances; i made absolutely certain that D4 was compatible with factory atf; it is more robust.
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eneos sustina 0w20 voa version 2.0
It's still surprising to see zing reading that low, but looks good otherwise for newer engines calling for 0w-20.
they use a new form of zinc, trinuclear moly, and extra boron; my uoa's will be starting soon, so it be interesting to see how that turns out; the great caterham has steered me towards mobil one racing oils-very beefy additive packages.
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